(September 15, 2014 at 2:46 pm)Celestine Wrote: Ha! A known falsehood! Yes religion should be kept out of public schools, that I can agree with you, but your government does a much better job at indoctrination than religion ever could hope to do! After all the government makes those textbooks and puts their own falsehoods that they present as truths in them. If only you knew how much of the things in your history books were false and not more than mere propaganda!
I can't... are you honestly this stupid? You blame the state government for the misinformation in the textbooks, but somehow, in some miracle of ignorance, manage to skip over the part where the government, in this instance, is filled with fundamentalist christians attempting to use their power to promote falsehoods in direct opposition to the law of the land?
Are you even thinking at all before you disagree?

Quote:In the Old Testament one of the ten commandments is thou shalt not kill, I don't ever remember reading anywhere Jesus telling to kill the unbelievers,
Jesus, in his own words, did not come to abolish the old laws, many of which detail the ways in which unbelievers are to be killed. Jesus also introduced the concept of hell, as a place where unbelievers go, and I humbly suggest that "you should be tortured for eternity for your beliefs," is a much, much more insulting statement than "your beliefs are stupid."
But since it's coming from religion, and you're a theist pretending to be atheist as though we can't see through it, you're blind to that. And if, on the off chance, you actually are an atheist, then your stance is entirely inconsistent and completely nonsensical, and you should feel bad.
Quote: and in Islam it only permits it when the people are attacking and killing Muslims or when another person unjustly kills another. At least from what I've read of the Quran so far.
All fifty pages of it, eh?

Quote:Perhaps if you wouldn't ill treat them so much they wouldn't say you need to be killed?
So in the previous paragraph you said there wasn't any biblical orders to kill atheists, and then in the next you say we deserve it? Contradiction!

Was there much atheism of any sort back when the old testament was written? Because, you know, there would need to be, for your statement here to make any kind of sense chronologically...
Incidentally, are you suggesting that threats of violence are an appropriate response to insults?

Quote: I think you fail to understand how much some atheists insult religion and the followers of religion. Granted I am not condemning religion, I have no reason to.
You have exactly the same reason as your purported reason for condemning atheism. Insults abound on both sides, only the theists are the only ones calling for violence, so it's literally worse on their end. To come here and pretend we're doing anything much at all is pure hypocrisy.
Quote: I know what ails the world and it is not religion, I am seeking to guide you on the right path for you to find out the true source of suffering. I could tell you, I could give you all the evidence in the world, I've tried it many times before. Like religious people many atheists have faith, faith in their dominions, and no matter how much evidence I presented to them they would not believe. They... all of them... rejected the evidence like creationists reject evolution, the atheists I debated with held on to their faith.
More poisoning the well. For a supposed atheist you sure do take a lot of pages from the creationist playbook. Hey, next tell us that science is just a theory!

Quote:I know now that I can not simply tell people, for they would never believe me. It tore me asunder to know that atheists whom I long believed were intellectual rational beings were just like the followers of religion whom I had been 'fighting' against for so long. Now I only have one mission in life, to promote peace and equality among the many clans of humanity, and to end the corruption that is rife in the dominions. To do that I need to learn how to change you, how to make you look at the REAL problem.
Don't you think it's a bit simplistic to say that there's only one problem?

Oh right, this is just about being a deep cover theist, not about actually saying anything cogent. I forgot for a second.

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