Libertarian Socialism

[The Grand Nudger]

So you are a participant, like it or not.

Sure, sure, my non-participation is only relevant to party affiliation and voting. I don't vote (and never have - most likely never will), I'm not a member of any political party, so the "you dems" bit doesn't really apply to me. Of course I participate in the system et al, I can't avoid it any more than your buddies, but I don't involve myself -in that particular bit-. I have no interest or impetus. I'm just about convinced that it's nothing more than theater. I'm at that rung of society where a change in leadership has no discernible effect on my life.

There are no contracts or formal agreements. If somebody is being a scum bag you treat them like a scum bag. They'll either correct their behavior or they'll fuck off.

Or- they'll take to you and yours like a plague for all you're worth...not because they're scumbags, but because they have mouths to feed that are more important to them than your own. You wont be able to fend them all off by yourselves, no one can - it's hubris to think otherwise - every position falls......and so we make a compromise with the state for security...-if-nothing-else-.

It takes several marketable skills to build your own house. My friends were raised learning those trades from their parents. So they actually have a pick in who they work for, usually they'll go for the job that treats them like an individual, rather than who pays the most.

How wonderful to be able to make such choices. Sounds like they aren't starving. Privileged people...go figure? I'm suppose I may be the worst guy to have this discussion with.......I've seen actual anarchy, not coddled malcontents playing anarchist under the loving arm of an existent state. I've picked up the rubble (and the severed limbs of human beings) and rebuilt the houses (and destroyed them again as well...no sense in omitting that I suppose), witnessed (and caused...at least in part) that misery first hand.... and I simply cannot forget it.

Anarcho -anything- isn't just "not for everybody" - its for nobody, I could not stand by and let it occur here, to me and mine. I suspect that you only entertain it as a plausible or workable model because you don't have firsthand experience. If you do, please, elucidate - wreck my assumptions and help me to have better nightmares...lol. Let me be clear......I think that the state very often oversteps it's boundaries - but I couldn't point to that as an argument against the existence of the state. I understand it's failures, but I also appreciate why we have a state.