RE: My Thoughts On Militant Atheism
September 15, 2014 at 5:39 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 5:40 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(September 15, 2014 at 4:58 pm)Celestine Wrote: I have little love for the United States or Americans, while I was in school I mostly taught myself, after I graduated I had to reteach myself many of the things my school had taught me, especially on patriotism and history. So I really don't care what Americans teach themselves, if they want to throw religion in on top of all the other garbage they teach themselves I honestly don't think it would make that much of a difference in their overall intellectual capabilities.
Maybe it wouldn't, but at least that bit can be fought on constitutional grounds. I don't see why it should be overlooked just because we can't fix everything.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: You really don't know how much of a failure the education system is do you? Not only for America but Europe as well. This is your own fault for allowing private interest groups to control your politics.
The mature thing to do would be to ascertain what someone doesn't know before concluding they don't know it. You have stopped private interest groups from controlling your politics? Surely I've heard of you then. In what country was this miracle accomplished?
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: I don't believe in hell so I can that insult me?
Only if you find the intent to insult more offensive than the particular words used.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: Or perhaps I've just grown to tolerate religion far more than you have?
In what way does he not tolerate religion?
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: That's usually how humans operate. Threats and Insults go hand in hand you know? Religion aside.
That's not how humanists usually operate, and you've descended into a hive of humanism and skepticism.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: Threats usually come after when the opposing side has nothing to back their argument up.
That's the point where we prefer to change our minds or leave out. We pretty much don't make threats around here. Greatly frowned upon.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: The Big Bang is certainly just a theory, it ties in to nicely to religion, and I'm much more a fan of the Static Universe Theory.
So you've found a Static Universe explanation for intergalactic red shift and cosmic microwave background radiation? Or do you just pick what theory to accept based on preference?
And since you are so fond of railing against people on their ignorance, here's a tip: Colloquially, a 'theory' is about the same as 'an educated guess'. However a scientific theory is a well substantiated explanation of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.
Nothing marks a person as more ignorant of how science actually works than to refer to a scientific theory as 'just a theory'. A scientific theory is made of facts, and explains them.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: Okay let me explain to you what is going on.
This is an atheist arguing with a theist about religion.
Meanwhile in Africa, South America, and Asia Billions of people are subjugated to a life of poverty and near starvation to make Capitalism work in first world countries. Capitalism is the problem, Communism is not much better.
Yet here you are, arguing with atheists about them being too militant. You should be using your time to help people in Third World countries, what are you doing on the internet? Or is there some sort of fallacy involved with berating people for spending some time doing one thing as though it means they aren't doing anything else?
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: Already posted it, like I thought it took certain pieces while leaving out the rest the explained what the cause was.
Good work. Glad you had your Qu'ran handy. Mine is at home. There's some mitigation in the first verse, and there are other verses that encourage peace. Unfortunately, it's just as easy to cherry pick the nasty ones as the nice ones if your goal is to convince young men to throw their lives away on violence.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: Democracy, possibly the most vile form of government that ever existed.
Except in comparison to all the rest that have been tried.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.