RE: My Thoughts On Militant Atheism
September 15, 2014 at 5:53 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 6:01 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(September 15, 2014 at 5:21 pm)Celestine Wrote: I never said they were defensive wars, nor did I claim they were. Why do I care if they were or were not?
You made a point that the Qu'ran instructs Muslims to fight in defense, and leave off when their attackers have subsided. It wasn't that long ago that you said this.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: All wars there are people being conquered, murdered, oppressed, and enslaved, the problem is that you're only associating it with Islam. Or at least making it seem as such from I can understand.
You misunderstand. There have been plenty of wars (a surplus, I'd say), many very secular (I've got an army that I think can beat their army, and I want their land and stuff), some very religious, and many where religion is used as a tool to recruit soldiers and justify war. Muslims aren't unique, but the Christians have mostly agreed to leave off killing each other over religion and let their government be (mostly) secular. Islam is still being used in this way, which makes it stand out in the modern world as a tool to promote war. I'm not under the impression that we wouldn't be having a lot of trouble in the Middle East today if Mohammed had never been born and the Middle East was dominated by Orthodox Christianity. Or that it wouldn't be Orthodox Christianity being used to justify violence if that were the case. The Middle East is chock full of problems with a tendency to lead to violence.
(September 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm)Celestine Wrote: This is happening even today with modern empire building. A simple class in Greek History could relate to you the astonishing similarities between the Athenian Empire and the Euro-American Empire.
We just go about it in a funny way these days, by not conquering new territory.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.