RE: Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?
June 14, 2010 at 9:58 pm
(This post was last modified: June 14, 2010 at 10:00 pm by Oldandeasilyconfused.)
(June 14, 2010 at 9:00 pm)ecolox Wrote:(June 14, 2010 at 8:39 pm)Scented Nectar Wrote: Yes, you are a bully, since you made the rain just for the purpose of punishing him, and you forcefully made him stay in it.
Justice is not bullying.
A flippant response ended with a mindless cliche, but not within shouting distance of an argument.
Whose justice,yours? As stated in some book? Law and justice are seldom the same thing.
The concept of justice is based on moral precepts. For Jews, Christians and Muslims,moral precepts are absolute , dictated by dogma. Concepts of justice as basic as vengeance, punishment and compensation have varied throughout recorded history and still do in different societies.
A moral relativist, I reject the notion of moral absolutes and of external moral authority,recognsiing only conscience.
"Obey me or I'll hurt you" is "do as I say because I say so " and is indeed bullying.
My ideal is to do what I consider to be right because it is right and for no other reason. However, because I'm a human being,I tend to be motivated by self interest more often than not. The theist does right for the reward of heave or to escape the punishment of hell. That is self interest,understandable but in no way a morally superior position. Justice does not enter the equation.
My observation is that gods reflect the people who invent them.YHWH (a modifed version of "El" (he) a minor Sumerian desert god) was invented by a tribe of bronze age goat herders and shares their characteristics IE he is rather stupid, petty,petulant,jealous,vindictive, sadistic and cruel -and of course ,unjust at a visceral level.
