RE: Libertarian Socialism
September 15, 2014 at 6:51 pm
(This post was last modified: September 15, 2014 at 7:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
LOL< fortunately, I wasn't part of the rash of recruits post 9/11. I saw the most horrid shit -not- in a warzone, but as a peacekeeper. As the cruel boot of the state (a foreign state, no less) - I did immense amounts of good. Relative to my other deployments, I actually take pride in that. I didn't see anarchy in the middle east. I saw war and misery, sure, but not anarchy. Of course I wasn't participating in anarchy in those (peacekeeping) deployments - I was there to put an end to it.
The aftermath of war -when all interested parties have dissolved or left people to fend for themselves (or have been limited such that they cannot do all that is in their power to help).......now that was heartbreaking. In the thick of it, the experience was much different. Interested parties capable of propping up a state (a military one, albeit) were still present and operating so while I may criticize the scope of their control I can't deny that a state existed. Things were better in the middle east even as rounds were flying than they were in other places where I plied my trade (where skirmishes were an infrequent or rare occurrence).
How about militant extremists that hand out MRE's, are they not helping? Respecting self ownership and natural rights only takes us so far. Someone, ultimately, has to be willing to enforce those things - because even if we all respect those things that doesn't mean that we all agree as to -who- owns -what-. Your community (with it's democratic say) might just be the origin of some tyranny of the majority - it's foolish not to at least entertain that possibility. Good things don't just flow from your community by virtue of it being arranged democratically. Sometimes large numbers of people are assholes along precisely the same lines and they democratically agree to engage in utter douchery. All of this, mind you, doesn't invoke the most drastic of scenarios, whereby you engage in war against your neighbor in the face of desolution, starvation, etc. People fighting for their very sustenance can be resisted, even killed - but I cannot judge them for what they do. Fight or die. We don't think about that much.....but it;s more prevalent than we'd likely care to consider. Sure, the potentate is just angling for power......but his soldiers are -starving- and the neighbors have food.
Anarcho-anything simply ignores this. It envisions some alternative universe where people can bunker up and provide for themselves or their group. They can't. That's abject poverty. You won't be able to build a mouse (and anyone who can isn;t going to need to trade with you -for anything-.......why would they need anything from you..they can build a mouse?) - the closest you'll get is a stone handaxe. So when you show up to their fortress gates starving and ragged...you think they;re going to hand you food and water, or that anything you have will be worth food and water? Maybe, if what you have consists of heavy armor and trained infantry (and isn't this okay under anarcho anything..it's not like there would be any laws against it) - otherwise, they're more likely to tell you to pound sand....just like we already do. How does that sound to you? You build a peaceful village, I'll recruit soldiers. Oh how wonderful our future will be......
The aftermath of war -when all interested parties have dissolved or left people to fend for themselves (or have been limited such that they cannot do all that is in their power to help).......now that was heartbreaking. In the thick of it, the experience was much different. Interested parties capable of propping up a state (a military one, albeit) were still present and operating so while I may criticize the scope of their control I can't deny that a state existed. Things were better in the middle east even as rounds were flying than they were in other places where I plied my trade (where skirmishes were an infrequent or rare occurrence).
How about militant extremists that hand out MRE's, are they not helping? Respecting self ownership and natural rights only takes us so far. Someone, ultimately, has to be willing to enforce those things - because even if we all respect those things that doesn't mean that we all agree as to -who- owns -what-. Your community (with it's democratic say) might just be the origin of some tyranny of the majority - it's foolish not to at least entertain that possibility. Good things don't just flow from your community by virtue of it being arranged democratically. Sometimes large numbers of people are assholes along precisely the same lines and they democratically agree to engage in utter douchery. All of this, mind you, doesn't invoke the most drastic of scenarios, whereby you engage in war against your neighbor in the face of desolution, starvation, etc. People fighting for their very sustenance can be resisted, even killed - but I cannot judge them for what they do. Fight or die. We don't think about that much.....but it;s more prevalent than we'd likely care to consider. Sure, the potentate is just angling for power......but his soldiers are -starving- and the neighbors have food.
Anarcho-anything simply ignores this. It envisions some alternative universe where people can bunker up and provide for themselves or their group. They can't. That's abject poverty. You won't be able to build a mouse (and anyone who can isn;t going to need to trade with you -for anything-.......why would they need anything from you..they can build a mouse?) - the closest you'll get is a stone handaxe. So when you show up to their fortress gates starving and ragged...you think they;re going to hand you food and water, or that anything you have will be worth food and water? Maybe, if what you have consists of heavy armor and trained infantry (and isn't this okay under anarcho anything..it's not like there would be any laws against it) - otherwise, they're more likely to tell you to pound sand....just like we already do. How does that sound to you? You build a peaceful village, I'll recruit soldiers. Oh how wonderful our future will be......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
