(June 15, 2010 at 12:54 am)tackattack Wrote: Your view of modern Christianity is still very skewed. Don't kill unjustly, love thy neighbor, don't lie, steal or cheat, obey the laws of mankind, etc.. I still can't see how you can honestly hold your view that modern Christians follow immoral rules. Anyways back to point.Secular law already has much better versions of those same rules. For instance, murdering a neighbouring tribe for having a different religion is no longer considered just. There is no law demanding that you unecessarily feel a particular emotion about your neighbours, replaced by much better, more detailed rules keeping your actions fair and just, eg, laws against them blasting music in the middle of the night.
Quote:The rain in the scenario is just what happens without God. Imagine in avast nothingness there is only one light. You can be in the light or in the cold. Secondly the hell of the Bible was actually intended for a place for the fallen angels, not intended to be our place of damnation. It just happens to be all that's left if we're not in his light.Bullshit. The bible does not say anything like the above. It specifically says that hell is a real thing, not an absence of things. God actively sends people there, not for nothingness (he could have left them peacefully dead for that), but for torment, gnashing of teeth, and suphuric pits of fire. It's also not very good to just say that it's ok, since he's only torturing angels, not us. That's like saying it's ok, Hitler's only killing those other people, not us. Hey, why did an entire third of the angels decide that god is too fucked up to stay with? They left the remaining .666 behind to stay with god. What's up with that?
Quote:Thirdly, each in faith according to their portion. If you're truly honestly unbiasly looking at a belief in God and don't see the evidence then it's not unreasonable that you don't believe at all.Even the believers don't see any real evidence. That's why they use a combination of faith (believing something without any evidence) and making the facts fit, like when reading horoscopes and seeing ways that it applies to you personally. Anyone can do that with anything. All one has to do is be convinced that the bible/horoscope is telling you the truth.
I'm really shitty at giving kudos and rep. That's because I would be inconsistent in remembering to do them, and also I don't really want it to show if any favouritism is happening. Even worse would be inconsistencies causing false favouritisms to show. So, fuck it. Just assume that I've given you some good rep and a number of kudos, and everyone should be happy...