(June 15, 2010 at 9:44 pm)ecolox Wrote: Welsh Cake: And with respects to the Biblical character of God, he is known to be jealous deity, he's often a wrathful tyrant, easily provoked, and goes as far as to actively punish non-believers for not accepting him/his son for *all eternity*.Translated; a petty, petulant,spiteful five year old with an ant farm and a magnifying glass.
Quote:The nature of people who reject the holy God is such that they deserve to burn in hell forever and ever. These are the sorts of people who would harm undeserving others without a second thought (if they had the opportunity (e.g. no punishments from authorities)).And don't forget, we eat babies too

Quote:You call yourself an atheist, but would you really reject THE embodiment of morality, justice, fair treatment, and so on - when you saw it (i.e. is it a lack of evidence, or is it a matter of hatred)?If I saw it I would accept it. How could I not? Evidence has been presented. I'm skeptical, not obtuse.
On the other hand, despite ALL the evidence for Evolution and an old Universe, creationists still maintain
the biblical account to be true. Now that is obtuse.
P.s your god embodies none of those qualities, quite the opposite in fact.
Quote:Welsh Cake: Third, why did there have to be a sacrifice anyway, couldn't have the big bad deity simply screw his own rules and just learn to FORGIVE everyone?
I am a Christian and I don't believe that Jesus "paid God for my sins". I just can't imagine that God would necessitate that (i.e. require blood, no matter from who or what) --- e.g. is Jesus more forgiving than God? - are they not of one spirit? I believe Jesus died because that's what God would've done under those circumstances - he was a complete witness to humankind as to the nature of God. The point of it was that God would much rather have people turn from evil than have to punish them, but in the end evil must be smitten - the innocent have to be relieved.
Well, that is what your religion maintains, who are you to question it?
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If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.