(June 15, 2010 at 3:48 pm)tackattack Wrote: 1- The conditions aren't imposed on the part of the creator, they're due to the reciprocal dynamic of exchanging love. If my time here proves anything it's that love can be accepted or rejected, and reciprocated love still feels like love from the giving side, but not from the receiving side. I still say the unconditional part stands.If you're going to undertake the pointless task of redefining the already defined concept of emotional love at least make it meaningful. And I still say the 'unconditional' part is fucking absurd and leaves us open to every conceivable form of abuse imaginable.
tackattack Wrote:2- I agree on your point of your perception of the Biblical character of God, that's not love, that's manipulation, personification and misconception.This is so bloody tedious. Let's make this interesting, I'm issuing you a challenge tack: quote one line just ONE event in the Bible where you disagree completely with your God concept's reckless actions, I dare you to cite one time where you found his character to be utterly immoral, repugnant and reprehensible. If you can successfully pull that (feat) off then just for you I'll quote a single passage from Biblical text where I find your tyrant godfather concept's decision(s)/action(s) to be benign and morally positive.
tackattack Wrote:3- Anything worth having is worth sacrificing for. God does forgive everyone, what about that aren't you getting. He sacrificed for sinners and saints alike. His sacrifice wasn't just his death on the cross that was just the end of it. If you can't see the nobility of self-sacrifice through literally dying to give everyone a chance at eternal happiness, I don't think I can make you see anything different. IMO it seems like you're intentionally wearing blinders though.I don't want eternal existence with your imaginery deity. Does your depraved god concept respect my heart-felt decision? Fuck no, according to you its fire and brimstone for me, hooray!
(June 15, 2010 at 9:44 pm)ecolox Wrote: The nature of people who reject the holy God is such that they deserve to burn in hell forever and ever. These are the sorts of people who would harm undeserving others without a second thought (if they had the opportunity (e.g. no punishments from authorities)).Wow. I'm sorry to hear that your religion has so polluted your mind that you're unable to comprehend what is immoral about what you're saying. Your God-belief has no right to condemn anyone to eternal suffering for finite crimes.
ecolox Wrote:You call yourself an atheist, but would you really reject THE embodiment of morality, justice, fair treatment, and so on - when you saw it (i.e. is it a lack of evidence, or is it a matter of hatred)?I'M the embodiment and author of MY morality, not your Hebrew tribal sky daddy.
ecolox Wrote:I am a Christian and I don't believe that Jesus "paid God for my sins".Who else was this atonement for then?
(June 16, 2010 at 1:00 am)Godschild Wrote: I do not worship a belief I worship the One I believe in period.
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