RE: Objectifying women
June 18, 2010 at 4:51 pm
(This post was last modified: June 18, 2010 at 5:06 pm by Violet.)
fr0d0 Wrote:We're all potential rapists.
We are not. Some of us couldn't possibly rape due to either disability, fear, or dislike of the idea. Not to suggest that many of us are not...
Quote:your nature isn't like an animals nature. Animals act on instinct. You're supposed to be intelligent.
That doesn't stop some urges from being either too powerful for a person or for a person to not care to avoid the urge. Also... we are just as much animals as any other animal.
Rhizo Wrote:No True animal would behave as Tavarish does...
NTS! Not that it is necessarily an incorrect argument Though the addition of the word 'true' is redundant, I find.
fr0d0 Wrote:And you think raping someone is the same as impulse buying? When I impulse buy, I do it with the knowledge that there will be no repurcussions. Raping someone isn't without repurcussions. I've given you a workable scenario. You've said "is so".
I think it is often exactly like impulse buying. And there is often repercussions for impulse buying: money. Raping someone can be as "without repercussion as impulse buying.
Quote:Why did you say that?!? Sure, rape is something everyone is capable of. Rapists are not inhuman. I'm of the opinion that everyone has the capacity to be good, and that no one is unforgivable. Yeah you're misrepresenting me.
I said it because it seemed like it might be so from the tone coming from some people. You should, however, note: I did not say "fr0d0 thinks this"... but rather "some of my fellow forum goers appear to think this", and asked if I was misrepresenting anyone. I hope I was not... because that's a silly position.
Quote:Performing and using those services is a sickness. Both parties suffer. Assasins kill for money. That must be ok too. I want it ok... my snake brain is motivated to act naturally. My developed brain manouvers me towards personal and societal gain.
Assassination is okay, and is even good at times. I don't think you would be complaining too much if someone of "Hitler's caliber" were assassinated...
I don't see how using or performing such is a sickness... even if both parties do suffer. Of course your brain maneuvers you towards gains when it thinks it can.
Quote:Using your imagination can be perverse too. If you only steal a bag of sugar, you still stole.
My imagination perverse? How?
And stealing is necessarily bad, are you telling me?
Scented Nectar Wrote:It's only vile when a harmful desire is acted on. Everyone has some sort of harmful desires, such as many have wished they could murder someone who doesn't deserve it. Some people are unfortunate in that they get horny over things that would be very harmful if carried out, such as rape. In the case of rape, the harm of course, is that the other person hates that it's happening, it causes them long lasting emotional pain, and sometimes physical pain, as well as possible death from AIDS ('stay still a moment will you, I need both hands to properly put this condom on' - haha, yeah I know, I'm twisted to even think of that!). The AIDS factor makes it as bad as murder in my opinion.
How is that vile at all? Eating can harm you... but I'd hardly call it vile. Breathing can also harm you... but that too I would not declare vile.
I don't think it is so twisted... if I wanted to rape someone (and was a man) and did not want to give them my AIDS: I would sure as hell put a condom on
Who is to decide what someone deserves or does not?
I don't see them so much as unfortunate as having different tastes that others.
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