Objectifying women

[Scented Nectar]

You are saying that eating and breathing, which does to oneself, is comparable to the great emotional/physical harm done to another person against their will? WTF? Are you a sociopath with no empathy? Tell me you are joking please.

Yes, it is quite comparable. Observe these things that can hurt you when you are eating:

You can choke and die from eating.
You can get morbidly fat from eating.
You can suffer malnutrition from eating.
You can eat Big Al's sandwich and be killed as a result of having done so.
You can bring diseases into your body from eating.
The 'consistency' of your shit is affected by what you eat (and some forms of what can happen to it might be declared 'vile' ).

Let us not also forget that you can feed someone else food and they might choke and die from it.
They can get morbidly fat from eating it.
They can become malnutrated from it.
You can feed them Big Al's sandwich and frame them leading Big Al to kill them.
You can give them diseases by feeding them.
You can affect the consistency of their shit.

'Vile' is in the intention. The lack of empathy to the point where the person causes preventable harm without a good enough reason to justify it. You might need to kill in order to eat and keep living, but you won't die if you don't rape.

I have no idea what a 'sociopath' (as you are using it) is... but I certainly have empathy. A great deal of it in fact. More than most people I should think, but I know only so many And yet, noting all of that: I am not joking when I suggest that things should not be considered "vile" solely because they can hurt you. In fact... I was rather under the impression that declaring something 'vile' was a way to suggest that it makes you "sick to your stomach", "disgusted", "queasy", etc. Now... sometimes people attribute 'vileness' to a person, so as to imply that the person (or the person's actions) "make them sick"

It's in the disregard for other's happiness that the word vile applies, in my opinion. The lack of empathy is often referred to about sociopaths. These are totally preventable harms/pains/unhappinesses. It is the rapist that chooses to act them out instead of just keeping it to wanking thoughts, specialized porn, and perhaps having sex with people who consent to pretending nonconsent.

You also seem to suggest that some group of individuals somehow decides what people deserve and do not... but no: they usually compromise with each other to find a 'decent moral fit' for the majority. It is only individuals who decide what is deserved and also not... and further: while they may share an ideal of what is deserved... all concepts remain firmly within an individual. We aren't a hive mind... at least not yet.

We are a somewhat social animal. We do have a hive like structure in some ways.

Different tastes which are nonharmful are very different from different tastes which are harmful. You seem to be missing the ability to recognize harm and why causing pain is a bad thing.

Are not. Observe:

Eating A.

Eating B.

A = Cherries.

B = Ground glass.

Both are eating. Granted: eating one is quite likely to harm you more than the other... but that is not to reflect the action itself.

The cherries are never, or almost never eaten with the intention being harm. The ground glass is almost always eaten with the intention of harm. Shit happens anyways in life, but when intentional&preventable harm to others happen, there is a difference.

You seem to be missing the fact that whilst tastes might be different: they are tastes nonetheless. Now... I might have a real taste for ice cream... but also be diabetic and not eat it for my health's sake. It is not having a taste for a thing that dictates wether the action is done: that would be your decision to eat it (or absence of a decision to not eat it).

There is a big difference between causing harm to yourself and causing it to others. With yourself, you are consenting.

See: I might have a real attraction to rape... but also not want to do so because of not wanting to hurt another person like that. There is this wonderful thing for me if I happen to have internet: rape porn! And I will never have to rape a single soul to get a taste of how it feels (assuming I am empathetic enough towards the rapist on screen )

Hopefully that category of porn keeps many real attacks from happening. It's good to know that you have empathy and would not actually do it in real life. To me, that's where the entire difference, the 'vile' factor maybe, lies.