(September 24, 2014 at 5:11 am)Harris Wrote: Let us do a simple math:
Case one:
If you mean that atheist prisoners are only 1% of total prison population than according to above mentioned statistics:
Atheist = 2.01% of the total world population
Total world population = 7 billion
2.01% Atheist population = 140,700,000
1% atheist prisoners of total world population = 70,000,000
Above calculation shows, 50.2% atheists of total atheist population are spending their lives in prisons.
Are you saying that all of the world's population is in prison? Because, uh, if you aren't saying that, then calculating via the world's population, as opposed to the prison population that is the thing included in the claim would make you dreadfully wrong. Also, you'd look like an idiot, for crunching global numbers when the claim specifically mentions prison populations exclusively.
But then, that wouldn't be the first thing you'd looked like an idiot over, eh Harris?

Oh, and also, the bolded number? Seems to have come directly out of your ass. The real numbers are actually lower: the atheist population of prisons is something like 0.7 percent according to official documentation, and it's actually lower than it should be relative to the atheist population at large, too. Meanwhile, religious people dominate prison populations, and are also in prison at higher rates than one would statistically expect, relative to their actual populations. And I did provide a source there, Harris, since I know you'll forget if I don't point it out. You're just wrong, yet again.
Quote:Similar to Genkaus you have also passed over the fact that alongside morality, immorality is also the part of human construct and it needs proper system of check and balance.
Yes, that check and balance is called the rest of the culture. Haven't you been paying attention?
Quote:The laws of man may bind a pleasure seeker in chains or may put him to death, but they never can make him wise and virtuous if he disbelieves in God. Without faith in God, there can be no conscience.
Statistics, our modern understanding of psychology, and a number of other sciences, say otherwise. But then, I'm sure your fatuous and unsupported assertion is more convincing than all that evidence based research.

Quote:You have plentiful of information about your evolutionary ancestors. Do not you like to share some of your acquired information with us about the morals which your evolutionary ancestors were living with?
There are plenty of early human cultures, as I pointed out, that left governing documents that were both secular and held a lot of the positive tenets that religious documents hold to, while predating them all the same. The Code of Hammurabi being one of the earliest: it predates the Abrahamic religions by quite a while.
Quote:According to the teachings of all monotheistic religions, God had given complete moral knowhow to the very first man He created, The Adam. Therefore, people never lived without the concept of moral accountability. They, perhaps, rejected the idea for whatsoever reason or they perceived it differently than we do today but everyone was aware of it in all times in the entire known human history.
And why the fuck should I take this assertion of yours seriously when you won't back it up? This is just you desperately inventing fairytales to retrofit your desired conclusion over the fact that anthropology contradicts you, and has actual evidence to support it.
Unsurprisingly, I find your little fantasies entirely unconvincing.

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