Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?

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The conditions aren't imposed on the part of the creator, they're due to the reciprocal dynamic of exchanging love. If my time here proves anything it's that love can be accepted or rejected, and reciprocated love still feels like love from the giving side, but not from the receiving side. I still say the unconditional part stands.

Still talking about love as something that can be exchanged between humans and gods? I thought you agreed that gods are unable to feel and express human emotions, since gods are not human and humans are not gods. From that it follows that we should not label alleged divine behaviour with a category of human experience. Which makes me wonder, do you think gods can have any emotions as in unreasoned predispositions?

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I thought this was clear PR. Have you ever heard the phrase "I love my new lawnmower" or "I love that new show on HBO" Does that mean the objects reciprocate our love similarly, not they have no consciousness thus no emotion. Ever heard someone "Love their dog/cat". Are their emotional centers as developed as ours? No so we can be fairly certain that they don't love us the same way we love them, but we can see aspects of that love in their loyalty and affection, etc. Last example, ever loved an infant. Their cognitive processes and emotional development aren't the same at all as an adults. They obviously don't love us back the same, they're more interested in survival. I know of very few parents who wouldn't throw themselves in front of a moving vehicle to save their child or perhaps even someone else's. If an aspect of God is consciousness and the ability to express that consciousness, perhaps his emotional center is far more developed than ours is ATM. I'm not saying God loves.. as an action. I'm saying God is love as a noun.Yes I feel it is possible to love something and it not love you back and vice versa. Yes I believe you can understand logically the concept of something you can't yet attain. Christians use God as an absolute concept for holiness, everything good and pure that we strive towards. Everything humans witness must be labeled from a category of human experience or abstract concept, because that is the nature of observation. We separate God concept from the human concept by observing, then identifying with abstract concepts, the most absolute version of observed attributes separated from human fallibility.

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1-It is meaningful. I'm missing your point. Maybe I'm misunderstanding your perspective but what kind of skewed perspective sees receiving unconditional love bringing up ideas of fucking absurdity and every conceivable form of abuse imaginable. Please help me see your perspective better.

What I'm saying is why redefine "love" to demonstrate a deity is supposedly "superior" to Homo sapiens? After all we already have the word and its associated meaning so this exercise seems rather pointless.

2-Just one .. that's easy there are lots.
Hosea 13:16The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
because they have rebelled against their God.
They will fall by the sword;
their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
their pregnant women ripped open.
for just a few..No need for a challenge .. I've fully admitted that there are lots of atrocities attributed to God in the Bible.

Evil that's only attributed to God? *sigh* Well, I only asked for one but conversely I wish I could say it was as straightforward a task for me to find 'divine benevolence' as many Christian apologists claim, but just about every example in Old Testament Bibical text where God isn't slaughtering everyone is just a display of his character being utterly narcissistic and ultimately self-serving, there were few to choose from:

"I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more" (Isaiah 43:25).

Again, see the highlighted text "from my own sake", not, for your sake, every action is to propagate his own glory, everything has to revolve around this petty little ego-manic. The New Testament doesn't help matters as its always a second party professing his morality, not God himself:

Luke 6:27-37 (NRS) "But I say to you that listen, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you... Do to others as you would have them do to you. If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same... But love your enemies, do good... and your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High; for he is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful... Forgive, and you will be forgiven."

3-I've never once said that you're going to hell, just that you're wearing blinders.

By your faith where do you think I'm going after I'm worm-food?

If I can respect your decision, why wouldn't my God?

Because you care you've shown that you're more moral than your god concept and I wish you'd own up to that. If you had the kind of absolute power that's attributed to this deity, I'm confident, though not certain, that you'd use it to do good, regardless of whether people loved you back or not.

I know this is nothing grander than an appeal to emotion, but as far as the fictional concept of your god goes, he's demonstrated often that he doesn't give two shits about people like me, my existence, my hopes, my dreams, my family or my friends.

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1- And I'm trying to explain the purpose. I'm trying to define a goal for love to evolve into, as an absolute. If I called it perfect love or absolute love would it be easier for atheists to swallow? Is it the word God tripping you up?

2- Must not have tried so hard there are pages in the skeptics annotated bible, I won't bother quoting some for you here's a link. Almost a genuine try, and for that I'm grateful, thanks for the attempt.

3-By MY faith? I would say you're going to die. When you die you'll go wherever you belong, I don't know enough about you to make a further determination. Simply being an atheist doesn't put you in the bowels of hell or whatever your favorite hellfire catch phrase is. If you asking what the tenants of Christianity say will happen to people who know God and refuse him in eternity, then the answer would be an eternity of separation from God.

4-Wish I'd own up to what? How could I logically be more moral than the absolute concept I use to improve my own personal morality, doesn't make sense. If you want me to admit I'm more moral than the concept you have of God, I could safely bet that I am. As far as God giving a shit about you, you're not reading the same book I am then. When Jesus came he went to the poor, the outcast, the sinners, the unbelievers, the lepers, the homeless. Jesus didn't come to save the rich, or the white, or the educated, he came to save us all. [/off soapbox]

Sorry the responses have been a little delayed or emotional I've had strep and am quite grumpy from not eating for 3 days..