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Evidence for atheism
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RE: Evidence for atheism
(September 25, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Rhythm Wrote: And in the case that a does not imply b (or that a would imply b..if it were true...and simply isn't), the conclusion is what?
(I don't actually have to insert anything to your example CD, it's invalid, the premise does not have the power to make any assertion that follows lead to the conclusion, necessary and sufficient conditions - the conclusion is false -because- the premise is false.)

I was referring to your example, which in it's original form, is a valid modus poenens. But you cannot assert anything about the truth of the statement as a whole once you assert not-p. It's fallacious, end of. It has -no truth value whatsoever-. It is merely an invalid, unsound argument at that point.

Fucking post editing ninja, that's what you are. Big Grin
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Evidence for atheism - by robvalue - September 25, 2014 at 7:24 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Mister Agenda - September 25, 2014 at 9:55 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by fr0d0 - September 26, 2014 at 4:48 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by robvalue - September 25, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Chad32 - September 25, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Madness20 - September 25, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jenny A - September 25, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Madness20 - September 25, 2014 at 1:58 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by FatAndFaithless - September 25, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Madness20 - September 25, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by FatAndFaithless - September 25, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Madness20 - September 25, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by FatAndFaithless - September 25, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Simon Moon - September 25, 2014 at 3:02 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Mudhammam - September 25, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jenny A - September 25, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Tonus - September 25, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by genkaus - September 26, 2014 at 4:33 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Simon Moon - September 25, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Exian - September 25, 2014 at 11:52 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Minimalist - September 25, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Angrboda - September 25, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by downbeatplumb - September 25, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Minimalist - September 25, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by FreeTony - September 25, 2014 at 2:42 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by FatAndFaithless - September 25, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by FreeTony - September 25, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Chad32 - September 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 3:33 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by FatAndFaithless - September 25, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by robvalue - September 25, 2014 at 3:59 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 4:17 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Tonus - September 25, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 25, 2014 at 4:24 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by MJ the Skeptical - September 25, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 5:19 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 5:50 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Whateverist - September 25, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 5:59 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 7:05 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Whateverist - September 25, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Valkyrie - September 25, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Whateverist - September 25, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Angrboda - September 25, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Whateverist - September 25, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 7:57 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Angrboda - September 25, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Whateverist - September 25, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Angrboda - September 25, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Angrboda - September 25, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Angrboda - September 25, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 9:37 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 9:49 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 9:53 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 9:59 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Jackalope - September 25, 2014 at 10:34 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by The Grand Nudger - September 25, 2014 at 10:38 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by bennyboy - September 25, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Evidence for atheism - by Cyberman - September 26, 2014 at 5:51 am
RE: Evidence for atheism - by robvalue - September 26, 2014 at 7:06 am

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