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An argument against God
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RE: An argument against God
(September 29, 2014 at 2:56 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 29, 2014 at 2:22 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If statements can be about something not true.

You can say.

If I walked to school, I would be tired.
I am not tired.
Therefore I didn't want to school.

In this case, we had a series of statements, but mainly that God would have made himself known if he exists due to his attributes and due it being a favor to humanity to make himself known beyond doubt. As that is not done, we can deny what follows the first if, "if God exists". That is if the argument is sound.

That is valid:

If P, then Q.
Not Q.
Therefore, not P.

Maybe:

1. If God, then universal awareness of God.
2. Awareness of God is not universal.
3. Therefore, no God.

If the premise is true, the argument is sound. But it won't work on anyone who doesn't also grant that premise, which is not self-evident and therefore must itself be supported.

For instance, if God doesn't mete out eternal rewards and punishments for our finite actions and thoughts; revealing himself becomes somewhat irrelevant; so at least you would want to specifiy what specific God you're referring to; such as Yahweh as depicted in the Bible as read by a literalist.

You are right. It needs some additional argument to why it would be a favor to humanity if all knew he existed beyond doubt. I will go into that next week probably as I'm returning to the hospital for now.
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An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Neo-Scholastic - September 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: An argument against God - by downbeatplumb - September 29, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mudhammam - September 29, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Alex K - September 29, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Neo-Scholastic - September 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Alex K - September 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 30, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: An argument against God - by TreeSapNest - October 20, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Angrboda - September 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: An argument against God - by FreeTony - September 29, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: An argument against God - by FreeTony - September 29, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: An argument against God - by bennyboy - September 29, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Madness20 - September 30, 2014 at 6:45 am
RE: An argument against God - by Ben Davis - September 30, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: An argument against God - by John V - October 13, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Zidneya - October 14, 2014 at 1:29 am

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