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An argument against God
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RE: An argument against God
(September 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Experience on AF has taught me that Premise 2 is false. There seems to be nothing at all that could persuade an ideological atheist.

Well, there's at least a kernel of truth to that, in the following sense: If some being manifested itself doing things which - to us - seemed magical and supernatural, the rational first hypotheses to me would be to suspect either that
  • I had gone insane
  • Some kind of advanced intelligence is playing tricks on us
As much as the believer is conditioned to do so, it is not a justified default position to jump to the supernatural creator of the universe as a first explanation, it really isn't. It is more parsimonious to entertain the hypothesis that it's a non-supernatural and non-omnipotent creator or controller of our reality, e.g. via a simulation. That's not a point to be held against atheists, it is rather a lapse of judgement on the believers' part that they would interpret such an encounter in a God context by default.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Neo-Scholastic - September 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: An argument against God - by downbeatplumb - September 29, 2014 at 2:03 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mudhammam - September 29, 2014 at 2:07 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:12 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 2:46 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Alex K - September 29, 2014 at 3:24 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Neo-Scholastic - September 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Alex K - September 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 30, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: An argument against God - by TreeSapNest - October 20, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 1:59 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Angrboda - September 29, 2014 at 2:10 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 2:56 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Mister Agenda - September 29, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: An argument against God - by FreeTony - September 29, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: An argument against God - by FreeTony - September 29, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:10 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: An argument against God - by MysticKnight - September 29, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: An argument against God - by bennyboy - September 29, 2014 at 7:24 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: An argument against God - by The Grand Nudger - September 29, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Madness20 - September 30, 2014 at 6:45 am
RE: An argument against God - by Ben Davis - September 30, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: An argument against God - by John V - October 13, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: An argument against God - by Zidneya - October 14, 2014 at 1:29 am

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