Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?

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And when it's atached to a word like unconditional surrender does it still hold no meaning? As a peace treaty it by it's nature still has to be accepted as a condition. Is I've never used unconditional groveling anything in my time on this earth nor have I heard it in any congergation I've been in. Are you saying that people have that much of a hard time acepting the term unconditional love? I'm trying to read between the lines KN, please tell me what you're trying to really say.. no inuendo.

Do you know nothing of humans tacky?? Scare people enough with earthquakes, oil spills, damaging weather and the like and you will have any number of 'grovelling individuals' who are ready and willing to sell their souls to your devil just to be spared any inconvenience.

Your 'unconditional' always comes with "CONDITIONS" so it is a word of no or very little worth...to use this as a clear demonstration of this god of yours is a worthless exercise so I would like to you to consider another angle please...

There tacky clear enough for you ??? Or do I have to start using expletives and start vilifying you point of view?? so you will take notice ??

Tacky you are one obtuse mofo...you know this don't you.

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Innuendo...
That's Italian for suppository isn't it??

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Sorry for trying to support your point of view as having anything to do with validity next time won't you....

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I can be dense at time and for that I apologize. No need for needless explicates, things were just cooling off I thought .
Sense only my use of the word unconditional seems to have conditions. Please give me one example of the common use of the word unconditional that has no conditions. Or, if you don't wish for me to continue in this vein I will leave it for someone else and completely agree with you that fear, groveling, and fanaticism are not good grounds for anything productive, unless you're producing more hatred, intolerance and fear.

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Everything I'm aware of in existence has the basic condition of acceptance. I naturally rule that one out otherwise the word unconditional has no meaning. If you'd like it better, the only condition of recieving god's love is accepting god's love. We can word hack all night but it won't get us any closer to anything.

Everything in existence “exists” whether you accept it or not. And unfortunately, “unconditional” does have meaning – it means “not conditional or limited”, “absolute”, “unqualified” (sorry about all of this “word hacking”). But I think I am clear on your stance: the Christian god loves us unconditionally unless we don’t accept his love, in which case he withholds it. Of course, this means that all people of religions other than yours, who don’t accept the love of your god, are doomed to an eternity in hell.

I have no idea what universalism believes, but the NIV and KJV Bible are actually very vague on what happens exactly after death.

I think this passage from the KJV bible makes it pretty clear what Jesus thinks will happen to unbelievers i.e., people who don’t accept god’s love, after they die:

Mark 9:43-48
43And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry. -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post

I think I have a term to designate the followers: Conditional Unconditionalists.

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1- Where did I say I didn't believe things that existed exist? I was simply pointing out that part of the dynamics of concepts and language require even the most basic use of the word unconditional (when used as a modifier) requires the condition of acceptance. I cited the only 2 examples I can think of unconditional love and surrender. I think an idealistic absolute definition like the one sighted is what I first tried to convey but was rejected, because by it's very nature it must be accepted. I then went with a more practical approach which apparently failed. Let me use your words to express my opinion since I'm failing at it: "the Christian god loves us unconditionally. If we don’t accept his love, he doesn't withhold it, we are just in denial of it. Of course, this has no relevance on people of religions other than yours, because religion is about a concept of God not actually God. You can still reject the love described by one concept of God and still be accepting of God's love. Those who don’t accept the love of God (not concept of God), are doomed to an eternity without it."

2- I didn't say it's unclear about where you'll end up for eternity after the judgment. I said it was unclear as to exactly what happens after death. I'm not sure if you're in limbo, purgatory, Sheol, nothingness, roaming the earth as a ghost, etc. until that judgment. After that judgment day yes it's pretty clear there's 2 lines. Maybe a few millennium in purgatory would make you change your belief in whether God existed or not? A few millennium in nothingness would definitely make me change mine.