RE: A new atheist's theories on meta-like physical existence
September 30, 2014 at 7:54 pm
(This post was last modified: September 30, 2014 at 8:08 pm by freedeepthink.)
(September 30, 2014 at 7:12 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: In view of the Fermi paradox, I'm thinking the advanced civilization might be us.
Really.
Or, if I am feeling generous, we're first.
Think of the galaxy as a large petri dish. The first civilization that develops the technology and has the motivation to colonize the galaxy will. And even without faster than light capabilities, the galaxy has been around long enough for that to have occurred >1000 times, and yet, they are NOT here.
Helluva thing to contemplate.
Thanks for the Fermi Paradox reference. That was helpful. I have considered that maybe there are more advanced civilizations but perhaps not advanced enough to transcend the speed of light, distance, or time. Otherwise, it seems that at least one of these civiliations would have made their presence known. That is, unless of course, as I mentioned in my original post, they don't care to or don't believe in colonizing inhabited planets. No, I am not a Star Trek fan.
I sure hope we aren't all alone. Wouldn't it be nice to receive a message from SETI? My hope for a Metaphysical-like civilization is perhaps my last vestage of hope. Is it a normal stage for new atheists to have these hopes before letting go and accepting that we are hopelessly drifting through this vast universe? Where does this search end?
(September 30, 2014 at 7:40 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:(September 30, 2014 at 7:26 pm)freedeepthink Wrote: . . .
So, are we all alone? Are there beings who have reached the singularity (in the Kurzweil sense of the term) and now can control life itself? Kurweil's projections are lofty, but who could argue that a civilization 1000 years beyond ours couldn't control life? Once you can control life,, i.e. eternal life, aren't you God-like?
A civilization 1000 years beyond our own 100 million years ago (in our 10+ billion year old galaxy) would be here!!
They've had ample, ample, ample time to completely fill the galaxy many, many, many times over.
Where are they ?
In that line of reasoning, the laws of physics would have limitations that can never be overcome that would explain why our cousins from Alpha Centauri or wherever can't reach us.
(September 30, 2014 at 7:35 pm)Surgenator Wrote: If there are aliens out there, I always thought they would avoid us. And not because of some prime-directive BS, but because our society is full of stupid people who are very loud.
I imagine an alien race first receive our tv radio waves which might be from WW2. They would say, "they're a young civilization, so by the time we reach them they will be better." As they travel closer, they would receive more recent transmissions maybe from the 60s-90s. They'll say, "you see they are getting better. A little wierd but at least there not killing each other as much." Then they receive reality TV. Thats when the aliens panic and say "they're regressing. Lets get the fuck out of here."
Fantastic. Love your comments!
