(October 2, 2014 at 6:07 pm)MistressD Wrote: I guess perhaps I address this question to theists...if God is so perfect, and created Adam and eve as perfect in his image, then why did they disobey him?what in the bible makes you think Adam and Eve were perfect copies of God?
Adam was formed from the dust from the Ground in the image of God, and then God breathed life into him making him a living soul. Therefore it can be said God created Adam from dust. From Adam God took a couple of ribs, and did not create, but produced eve. Nowhere in the bible does it say Adam and Eve were photo copies of God.
Quote:If they were created without sin then how is it they came to sin?If you were to make a cake, and intended it to be eaten, do you bake a cake pre-sliced? Or do you make a cake without a slice and/or blemish and then allow it to be cut it into slices?
Quote:I'm not talking about the stupid tree of knowledge, I'm asking how it was they were so susceptible to satan?because that was the plan???
Quote: Which leads me to another question, God created satan himself, from what I understand he was a perfect angel, then how is it he also came to sin?I think you are having trouble with the word perfect. You seem to be using it to describe something with out flaw alongside the ability to be beyond influence or damage for eternity.
Know two things. One in Genesis God does not deem man a perfect creation He simply labels what he has created as good or 'very good.'
Two the hebrew word (first used in chapter 6 to describe Noah's character) simply means complete, not lacking, whole. It does not imply eternal perfection. You are confusing the mythos of pop christianity with what the bible actually says.
Quote: This seems to me God is in fact fallible, or else deliberately set us up to fail, seeing as how sin should not exist unless he made it so.Yes we are indeed meant to fail, and seek redemption if we want it. This seperates the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the weeds the wheat from the chaff.
Those who what to be with God from those who do not.[/quote]
Quote:As a burgeoning atheist, this is one of the biggest issues I have with theism. I wish to hear as many points of view as possible on this one, not just Christians please.Well you now have one more.
