RE: How to argue against this claim
October 18, 2014 at 4:26 pm
(This post was last modified: October 18, 2014 at 4:32 pm by Aoi Magi.)
(October 18, 2014 at 3:46 pm)Lek Wrote:I was talking in context to the current thread, not the entire forum, since you yourself claimed that we called god terrible in this thread, but I guess you have a hard time keeping track of what you write, so let's leave it be.(October 18, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: When did we say he is terrible? We didn't come up with the leg chopping scenario. Also we are talking about the concept of the christian god, and this concept does exist in case you didn't know...
You have 345 posts in the forum and you're seriously asking when you (meaning posters on this forum) have ever said that God is terrible? Come on. Give me a break!
The point is, yes, the concept of christian god is terrible, and so are many of his supposed actions. Would like to clarify why the concept is not terrible according to you?
(October 18, 2014 at 4:18 pm)smithers Wrote: "I am not god and I do not pretend to understand god's plan, none of us possibly can!"Then the question becomes: "Why do you claim to understand what he wants?"
(October 18, 2014 at 4:18 pm)smithers Wrote: Some of the things that people say to justify the ridiculousness of many religious claims are just funny. Another point people will make is that evil is not god's will but man's will. Then comes the problem of free will vs a predetermined fate. So we either have no free will and EVERYTHING is god's plan, or we have free will and god has no influence over our lives. But there cannot be both and so many religious people fail to realize this: free will and fate CANNOT coexist at the same time. At least not in my mind. It's a funny thing to bring up the concept of evil and how it can coexist with a loving, compassionate god.If you are talking about OT god, you can't use "loving and compassionate" in the same sentence.
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