The Case for Atheism

[Jenny A]

Atheist or religious persons would't know what scientific proof IS if it was thrown in their faces!! 75% of you all didn't even take Trig...let alone calculas...maybe got B+ in High School chemistry. Oh, yes I know there's smart people from Harvard that are atheist, but their also religious people too from Harvard. Most atheist replace biblical gods with scholastic ones. Atheist always argue for scientific proof, but most of them don't have the education or only have a psuedo knowledge from wikapedia to know what exactly is scientific proof. Just keeping attributing you reasoning to your scholastic gods because obviously the majority just don't have the brains to for reasoning or contemplation

Most people are uneducated or not able to think scientifically, therefore god. That's the most humorous proof yet.

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No one should call anyone retarded. Atheist have emotional problems and serious mental problems and that's why the deny religion. Or, the practiced devil worshiping or maybe voodoo, and are doing perverted weird things in their cerimonies. As I always say...most atheist want attention..or feel powerless in their lifes

The devil would be a god honey. A nasty one but a god non-the-less. I lack a belief in gods, devil included. You have evidence for the existence of the devil?

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Atheist don't want religion because they feel guilty. They don't want anything to interfer with all the bad stuff their doing in their life. I keep saying mostly its an attention getter. They feel insignificant in society so somehow going against the norm makes them feel important.

Uh huh? That's why so few atheist come out publicly, to seek attention. And we have lower crime rates because we want to do evil.

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Only in the world of atheism does not believing a light is on does not mean they believe the light is off. <snip>

If I have no way of knowing whether the light is on or not, then the mere fact that I have no reason to believe the light is on gives me no reason to think it is off. I'm simply in no position to know.

In the case of gods, the situation is much worse. At least with a light, I understand what that is and what it means for it to be off or on. With gods I find very little agreement as to what counts as a god. I know how to tell if the light is on (if I have access to the space in question). I have no idea how to tell whether gods exist.

If the light is on, visibility will be much greater at night or when the ambient light is insufficient for creatures such as ourselves. If gods exist .. what? Damned if I know. And what ever you may say on the subject does not constrain the next theist joker from changing the definition.

The situation with gods is what the situation concerning whether the light is on would be like for someone blind from birth. Get it?

This ^

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I think its a false analogy to compare evidence of gravity with evidence for the existence of God.

One of the key things you learn when doing empirical research is using the right method that fits the research question/hypothesis - rather than assuming there is one right method for testing all hypotheses.

And what method do you think is the right method to test the existence of god and why?

So it really depends on what you mean by evidence - all the counter arguments I've read on the thread really come down to a prior commitment not to interpret the universe, history or experience in theistic terms.

By evidence I mean any facts or logical arguments tending to make the existence of god more or less likely. I haven't seen any which make the god hypothesis more likely. You have any?

If you've presupposed that only naturalist explanations of the world are valid - of course you're going to conclude there is no evidence for the existence of God. But to show this assumption is valid you need to present evidence why naturalism is true - otherwise it doesn't prove anything its just begging the question.

Well yes, I find if I don't believe in the natural world, I tend to bump into things and hurt myself. I lack evidence in anything other than the natural world and that lack of belief appears to have no consequences, so I feel safe in dismissing it.