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Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
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RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction
I do agree that abstinence is probably much better of an idea than attempting 'controlled' drug use.

But I think the whole 'higher power' thing is more about ego deflation than anything, which I can also agree is a good thing, to some extent of course. However, most people in AA seem to fail to realize that ego deflation is one of the objectives of the program, and simply act on blind faith of what other 'AA's' say about certain things. AA almost wants you to become an obedient little dog because it will save your life if you 'just follow directions.' Which I think takes the whole ego deflation thing a bit too far.

Some people in AA go as far as saying, 'Don't think about it, just do it! Your best thinking is what got you here in the first place.' Which is utterly hilarious. The Big Book even talks about 'intellectuals' and how they have a hard time staying sober because they are 'too smart' for their own good. Which is also hilarious. Like I said I agree that many addicts, and normal people in general, could probably use a nice dose of ego deflation, but when you say things like, 'Intelligence will not keep you sober, quit trying to think about everything!' you are basically saying don't be intelligent and just do what we say. Some have gone as far as telling others that they will not stay sober because they are too smart for their own good. Which is ridiculous.

The whole attitude that some people in AA have tends to sort of pervade throughout the majority of members because even though some people want to say, "Hey you're full of shit," they won't because they will be told that "With that type of attitude you're not going to stay sober." And it's pretty sad. The herd mentality is dangerously reminiscent of a religion, which is not surprising since AA, though members will deny this, is a RELIGIOUS program.

I do know some Atheists in AA, and they found a way to make AA make sense for them. Basically, take what you need and leave the rest.

With that being said I do support any method that one uses to get sober. While I don't believe addiction is a disease necessarily I do think there is something different about those in society that are addicts. And I do think seeking help is a good idea.
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Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 21, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by LastPoet - October 21, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 22, 2014 at 1:35 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 21, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 21, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 21, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Jenny A - October 21, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 27, 2014 at 7:45 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 27, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 27, 2014 at 9:15 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Chas - October 27, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Jenny A - October 21, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Chas - October 21, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Jenny A - October 21, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Chas - October 21, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Jenny A - October 21, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 21, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 21, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 21, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 21, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 21, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 21, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 21, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 21, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 21, 2014 at 7:54 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 21, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 21, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Dorian Gray - October 22, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 22, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Dorian Gray - October 22, 2014 at 11:29 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 23, 2014 at 12:53 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Dorian Gray - October 23, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 27, 2014 at 11:20 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Dorian Gray - October 27, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 23, 2014 at 4:17 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 22, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Bad Wolf - October 23, 2014 at 8:00 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 23, 2014 at 8:02 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 23, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 23, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Chas - October 23, 2014 at 11:22 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 23, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Chas - October 24, 2014 at 1:17 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Lao Shizi - October 23, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 23, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Lao Shizi - October 23, 2014 at 8:35 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by vorlon13 - October 23, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Kowlzer - October 23, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 23, 2014 at 9:53 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 24, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Bad Wolf - October 24, 2014 at 2:40 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 24, 2014 at 2:47 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 24, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Chas - October 24, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 25, 2014 at 1:43 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Chas - October 25, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Drich - October 25, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 25, 2014 at 2:08 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Drich - October 28, 2014 at 10:20 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 27, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 27, 2014 at 10:12 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 27, 2014 at 6:30 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 28, 2014 at 8:30 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - October 27, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 28, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 28, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 29, 2014 at 8:02 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 29, 2014 at 8:56 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 29, 2014 at 9:02 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by Aractus - October 29, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by John V - October 29, 2014 at 10:53 am
RE: Alcoholics Anonymous and Drug Addiction - by AceBoogie - November 4, 2014 at 10:17 pm

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