(October 21, 2014 at 3:43 pm)Chas Wrote:(October 21, 2014 at 2:48 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Five percent is hardly doing well. So cheer leading for it is a disservice to alcoholics and other addicts. But you're right that celebrating what worked for oneself is human. It's just not necessarily useful to anyone else.
I suspect you are thinking of me (among others) as one of those who think all Christians are miserable and sexually repressed. I don't--though I do know Christians who are one, the other, or both of those things. Absent religion, I don't really know anyone who is very sexual repressed though not all the religious are sexually repressed.
Miserableness seems to be a common human condition with or without religion.
If religion helps some escape miserableness in the form of alcoholism or anything else, I don't see that separating them from religion makes much sense, unless they are hurting others with religion. But it's important to understand that religion is not the only escape from miserableness and proclaiming that it is, is not a healthy thing. That is what AA does with a 5% track record.
What is your source for "5%"?
See video ^
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.