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An Argument Against Supernatural Causation
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RE: An Argument Against Supernatural Causation
(July 3, 2010 at 5:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
(July 3, 2010 at 4:41 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:
(July 3, 2010 at 4:28 am)fr0d0 Wrote: It seems to me that all of your arguments plead to materialism, even the philosophical ones, which makes them more than weak.
Even if one accepts that this is a plea for materialism, it does not follow that an argumment therefore becomes "weak".
What, I have to make a case for the non materialism of God? To do that I'd have to first destroy the God contruct and re-invent him as material. You're not addressing the subject here.
I pointed out a fallacy in your reasoning, I did not address the content of your premises. There is a difference, you know. I certainly did not urge you to make a case for the non-materialism of god. So please address the subject of my statement if you are in denial of it.
(July 3, 2010 at 11:32 am)The Omnissiunt One Wrote:
(July 3, 2010 at 5:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote: What, I have to make a case for the non materialism of God? To do that I'd have to first destroy the God contruct and re-invent him as material. You're not addressing the subject here.

You should at least try and demonstrate that the concept of non-materialism is coherent. Also, are you saying that the argument presupposes materialism, and is therefore weak, or that it argues in favour of materialism and is therefore weak? I wasn't entirely sure.
Non-materialism is coherent since many examples of non-material exist. Take language for instance. Without non-materialism the concept of the word coherent could not have coherent meaning. Is supernatural the thing you are referring to?
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
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RE: An Argument Against Supernatural Causation - by Purple Rabbit - July 3, 2010 at 11:34 am

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