Feminism and Gaming

[John V]

Ah, so we're switching from straw man to quote mining.

Here's the whole quote:

And what you keep missing is that fantasy shouldn't contribute to anyone's self-image problems. Know why? Because it's fantasy.

The context in relation to all of my posts in this thread, which I know you've been reading, is that I'm what ought to be (hence, the word "should") in a society that distinguishes between fantasy and reality for women the same way it seems to effectively do for men. Men don't feel insecure about fantasy, unrealistic body types so how can we accomplish the same for women?

Actually I looked into this briefly yesterday and found that men are affected as well.

I do hope your sources will be a little better researched and peer-reviewed than the last link you posted. I'm open minded but based on my experiences, such men would be uncommon and therefore other factors may be in play.

Again, fantasy images occur in real life and have real life effects. You say yourself that men get off on looking at such images. There isn't a wall between media images, fantasy or otherwise, and real life.

So you say. Again, I'll need to see peer-reviewed psychology studies and not some guy ranting and making things up on a Christian website.

First, let's note that you haven't provided peer-reviewed studies yourself, and are making things up on an atheist website, like alleging that the Bible teaches that sex is only for procreation.

Here's some links and excerpts:
http://www.afboard.com/library/Evolving%...0image.pdf
Our observations appear to represent a “male analog” of earlier studies examining female dolls, such as Barbie. Together, these studies of children’s toys suggest that cultural expectations may contribute to body image disorders in both sexes.
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A growing body of literature has described disorders of body image among men. For example, such disturbances are frequently documented in men with eating disorders. In one study, college men with eating disorders reported a degree of body dissatisfaction closely approaching that of women with eating disorders, and strikingly greater than comparison men (Olivardia, Pope, Mangweth, & Hudson, 1995). Other studies of men with eating disorders have produced similar findings (Andersen, 1990; Schneider & Agras, 1987). Even in studies of male students without eating disorders, the prevalence of body dissatisfaction is often striking...

http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/men/5/2/112/
Findings suggest that contemporary American men display substantial body dissatisfaction and that this dissatisfaction is closely associated with depression, measures of eating pathology, use of performance-enhancing substances, and low self-esteem.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.10...3/abstract
Although boys generally displayed less overall body concern than girls, many boys of all ages reported dissatisfaction with their bodies, often associated with reduced self-esteem. Whereas girls typically wanted to be thinner, boys frequently wanted to be bigger. However, most studies failed to distinguish between “bigness” due to increased muscle and that due to fat.
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Body image dissatisfaction in boys is common and often associated with distress.

Alternatively, if fantasy images have no effect on real life, then there's no reason to sex them up.

Explain your logic.

If fantasy images don't have a real effect on people, then it doesn't matter what they look like.

The passages I quoted were.

The passage cited clearly taught that those not given the gift of celibacy should get married and engage in sex regularly. It's interesting that you want to believe otherwise.