(October 31, 2014 at 9:53 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: This is another example of the skeptic who reads what's there and the Christians who interpret what they read to mean what they already believe.Verses? You mean, rather, half of one verse. That verse alone refutes your position:
Quote:1COR 7:4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband:
How is that not intended to establish that the man owns the woman's body? That is what it says, after all. Now you can spin and try to come up with obtuse interpretations to explain it all away but that's what the verse says in clear black and white.
If the passage says the man owns the woman's body, and it clearly does, then it's also saying he can rape her. After all, it's his body. He owns it. He can do with it as he pleases.
Spin, deny, put your hands over your ears and scream "la la la" all you like. When you're done, the verses will still be the same.
4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
By your method of interpretation - completely ignoring context - the woman can tell him to stay away from her. After all, it's her body. She owns it. She can do with it as she pleases.
Or, we could look at a number of passages regarding marriage and sex in order to get an overall framework on the subject, and interpret individual verses - or half verses - accordingly.
Prov 5
18 Let your fountain be blessed,
And rejoice with the wife of your youth.
19 As a loving deer and a graceful doe,
Let her breasts satisfy you at all times;
And always be enraptured with her love.
Song of Songs
2 Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth!
For your love is better than wine;
And 8 more chapters of the like.
1 Cor 7
1 Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 3 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
Eph 5
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.” 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
Col 3
19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be bitter toward them.
1 Pet 3
7 Husbands, likewise, dwell with them with understanding, giving honor to the wife, as to the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
No reasonable person who reads all that is going to come away from it thinking there's nothing wrong with a man lifting his wife up by her throat, slamming her into the wall, ripping off her lingerie, and taking her violently all the while she is is begging him not to hurt her.
