(November 1, 2014 at 2:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(November 1, 2014 at 2:35 pm)Jenny A Wrote: No, it's not a misunderstanding. I understand perfectly that you believe without demonstrative evidence. I just find believing without evidence irrational and stupid.
I don't lack evidence. I just lack that evidence. My evidence resides in the realm of intellect. I find it odd that you think what you need your brain to deduce, you find irrational. Yet what you don't need your brain to deduce, you find rational. I suspect we'd have to go a long way back in evolutionary history to find an ape with as limited capabilities as yourself.
You have yet to produce any evidence. If you believe you can reason something into existing, then you are delusional.
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(November 1, 2014 at 1:40 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Skirt around what issue?.
1 The fact that no religion owns science?
2. The fact no one has evidence for the existence of a god?
3. The fact humans mistake rights with credibility of a claim?
1. That's what I'm talking about. Redirecting the problem to a minority misunderstanding
2. Repeatable evidence is illogical - you will ignore this as you always do. Evidence there is, nonetheless.
3. What rights? What claim? See #2. I would hope you respect my right to believe what I rationalise to be true, even if you don't believe the same, rationalising what you believe to be true. I claim to believe in God, as do all other theists. Here's your other blind spot: we don't claim that God exists. We claim belief. Nobody can know.
I don't demand rights. You are at liberty to grant or deny them to me. I will oppose you if you limit my freedom. I grant you your rights, for without those rights you wouldn't be free to believe anything.
I'm with you on limiting religious intrusion on your rights, as I believe that makes religion impotent.
The only one skirting here is you. You not only don't have any evidence, you don't understand the concept of evidence.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
Science is not a subject, but a method.