RE: Heads up advice for atheists.
November 3, 2014 at 4:41 pm
(This post was last modified: November 3, 2014 at 4:45 pm by RobbyPants.)
(October 31, 2014 at 12:07 pm)AtlasS Wrote: Well, I always wanted to test this verse against science (probably most Muslims wanted to) :
( 33 ) O people from jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by power (literal translation of the word سلطان).
( 34 ) So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny?
( 35 ) There will be sent upon you Fragments (the literal translation of شواظ) of fire & brass and you will not succeed.
So for an ancient Muslim, he/she must be wondering : am I really really going to get hit by tiny hot fragments if I got into outer space without the proper power -the sultan literally means "ultimate power/authority + control over something"..
Well we could've saved scientists some extra time by showing them this verse ; it would've guided them immediately to MICROMETEOROIDS !! with are actually fragments so hot (just like a mixture of fire & brass/copper) that kills you if you travel outer space without enough "sultan/power" !!!
I like your topic..
Cherry picking.
You're counting your "hits", where the vaguely worded bit about fire and brass as meaning "micrometeroids", while you ignore your misses about jinn. That's talking about genies. You're seriously trying to find scientific advice from something that mentions genies in the same sentence. You also ignore the miss of meteoroids not being made of brass or fire. You're just seeing what you want to see.
Note: this isn't something unique to Islam. Talk to Christians about how the book of Job predicted a spherical earth before anyone else knew that. Of course, it doesn't, but I'm just letting you know that post hoc, cherry picked interpretations of vaguely worded verses isn't unique to Islam.