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Heads up advice for atheists.
RE: Heads up advice for atheists.
(November 3, 2014 at 6:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No Brian. I have rational thought. A process of discerning truth. "Feelings" are best guesses based upon unknowns. I have no feelings about what I believe.

There's a massive part of life which science doesn't cover, and cannot, BY ITS OWN RULES. The gaps you want science to cover can never be covered by science, because they are outside of its realm. Scientists readily acknowledge this.

Square circles will always be logically impossible, just as your insistence that science has an answer for everything is illogical.

Nope. There is where you are wrong again. It is irrational to presume an answer which is what "god of the gaps" is. It is when you do it, when Muslims do it, when Hindus do it, when the Ancient Egyptians did it.

Don't hand me any half ass agreement that your evidence is not scientific then claim to have an answer.

The difference between when science does not know something, and the bad logic you use, is that science does not presume. You bought the car without checking under the hood first. Science makes sure there there is an engine under the hood.

We have the evolutionary facts not only in humans but in other species as well that our pattern seeking as a species is notoriously flawed. It is easier for humans to gap fill than it is for them to test to insure quality of data.

It is no different a flawed perception than when an antelope on the African plains cant tell if that tall grass swaying is the wind or a lion stalking it. That antelope does not always have time to sit and observe and can simply react and get the guess wrong, by running away from the wind when no lion was actually there.

No different than when kids desire Santa to be real, or when they fear the dark shadows on their night time wall as being a monster. I had both those falsehoods as a kid.

The problem with adults is they do not understand how powerful in biochemical terms how easily they can fool themselves or be fooled by what others sell them. Your "evidence" can feel quite real to you and I am sure you really would like a god to exist. And those false perceptions can feel as real as a phantom pain amputees report.

But it still amounts to selection bias and sample rate error. When you claim science does not have the answers, they do in terms of biological evolution, anthropology, neurology, psychology and psychiatry. We have very natural explanations as to why humans can and do have false perceptions.

You simply like what you believe and you have "experiences" that you misinterpret because you do not have an objective understanding of of those sciences I mentioned.

"Evidence" is not what you personally cherry pick. Evidence is why you are typing on your computer, why we have planes and doctors and cell phones. Your personal belief is only evidence that you have a personal belief, but it is not and never will be universal like science is.
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Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by polar bear - October 31, 2014 at 10:41 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Mudhammam - October 31, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by WinterHold - October 31, 2014 at 12:07 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Ben Davis - October 31, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by RobbyPants - November 3, 2014 at 4:41 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 3, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Aoi Magi - October 31, 2014 at 12:17 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by WinterHold - October 31, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Aoi Magi - October 31, 2014 at 1:45 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 31, 2014 at 2:27 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by genkaus - October 31, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cato - October 31, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cato - October 31, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Alex K - October 31, 2014 at 7:02 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Jenny A - November 1, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Chas - November 1, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Jenny A - November 1, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by abaris - October 31, 2014 at 2:30 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Minimalist - October 31, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - October 31, 2014 at 2:22 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 31, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cato - October 31, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 6:56 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - October 31, 2014 at 9:48 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Whateverist - November 1, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 1, 2014 at 9:12 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - October 31, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - October 31, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 1, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Mudhammam - November 1, 2014 at 2:14 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 1, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Minimalist - November 1, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Chas - November 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 1, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 1, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Chas - November 1, 2014 at 4:22 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Minimalist - November 1, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 1, 2014 at 4:49 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2014 at 12:39 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 6:12 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 5, 2014 at 7:42 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2014 at 4:58 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 1, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2014 at 5:45 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Chas - November 1, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2014 at 6:04 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Chas - November 1, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 5:49 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by genkaus - November 4, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 1, 2014 at 5:51 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by abaris - November 1, 2014 at 5:53 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 1, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 1, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2014 at 6:16 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Esquilax - November 1, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by LastPoet - November 1, 2014 at 6:25 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 1, 2014 at 6:32 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Esquilax - November 1, 2014 at 7:55 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by MysticKnight - November 1, 2014 at 8:28 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 1, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 1, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by LastPoet - November 1, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by faileddata2 - November 2, 2014 at 1:51 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Whateverist - November 2, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Chas - November 2, 2014 at 9:59 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Whateverist - November 2, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 10:14 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2014 at 11:28 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Aoi Magi - November 2, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Mudhammam - November 2, 2014 at 11:51 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 2, 2014 at 12:06 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 2, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by His_Majesty - November 2, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Whateverist - November 2, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Ben Davis - November 2, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Mudhammam - November 2, 2014 at 1:53 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 4:14 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 2, 2014 at 6:27 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 3, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Aoi Magi - November 2, 2014 at 1:54 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 2, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 2, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2014 at 5:16 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 3, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 3, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 3, 2014 at 7:00 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2014 at 1:56 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 4, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 4, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 4, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2014 at 6:35 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Brian37 - November 4, 2014 at 7:59 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by AceBoogie - November 4, 2014 at 10:23 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by ComradeMeow - November 4, 2014 at 11:28 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by Cyberman - November 4, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 4, 2014 at 11:42 pm
RE: Heads up advice for atheists. - by fr0d0 - November 5, 2014 at 12:09 am

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