(November 5, 2014 at 7:11 pm)Alice Wrote: 'Nazism' is not terrorism, it is fascism. We yanks didn't have much to gain from the early part of the 'second' world war.I figured you wouldn't get the point. There are in fact important similarities between the Nazis and ISIS. For one thing, they gained power by having organized groups of armed thugs intimidate the populace. Another is that the Germans had minorities in other countries which gave them a pretext for attacking those nations; there are now Muslim minorities throughout most of the western world. They both share the delusion that destiny or Allah will grant them world domination, so they will go on expanding as long as we go on backing down from their threats. An important difference: Germany was a technologically advanced nation, so most of their armaments were produced either in Germany or in conquered territories, ISIS relies on buying its weaponry from external sources, which would require a different approach to choking off their ability to fight.
The crack about America coming late to the war was just a throwaway line directed at the obnoxious Hollywood presentation which makes it seem as if no one was doing anything until the Americans rushed in to save them from the Nazis. I have the utmost respect for the contribution that American forces made to the allied cause in both the European and Pacific theaters. However, it is true that the US government stayed neutral for over two years while 21 nations were overrun. During that time Britain, Canada and Australia were virtually the only nations opposing the Nazis.
Quote:You mean you actually care about the death of two soldiers? Curious, as it's a soldier's duty to die in service to their country.So you mean you didn't give a shit about the 3000 people killed in 911??? These soldiers did not die on the battlefield. One was run down by a car in a parking lot in the town where his base was located. The other was shot in the back while he served as a ceremonial guard at the National War Memorial.
Quote:Well, it's a little bit more complicated than that... but it's not a bad goal. Allah has already granted them victory: your fear breeds for their peoples more fear, bringing more peoples underneath their banner. Recruitment, revenge, religion.What fear??? My position is that we should kill the fuckers until there is an unconditional surrender. Same as we did with the Nazis and the Japanese.
Our approach to fighting terrorism is awfulDo it quietly if you have to... unless your can use that terrorism for your own benefit *cough* W *cough*
I suppose the following is another example of advocacy protected by free speech.
Active participating member’ of Pakistani terror group recorded in Canada saying he was on ‘military mission’
Quote:An “active participating member” of a Pakistani terrorist organization was recorded at a Toronto mosque saying he hated Canada and had been sent here on a “military mission,” an immigration official alleged at a hearing Friday. ...
His online writings suggest an “extremist mindset,” the CBSA [Canada Border Services Agency] said. “We are the Muslims and we are coming for you,” he wrote in a 2004 online post. He had also posted a photo of Toronto’s Scotia tower with the comment, “If I only had a plane.” ...
Mr. Ansari ... came to the attention of counter-terrorism police in 2012, when he was charged with 21 firearms offences over a stockpile of weapons he kept in Peterborough, Ont. ...
In January 2013, Mr. Ansari was arrested once again, this time for trying to destroy newspapers for Ahmadiyyah Muslims, a minority branded heretics by Sunnis and often subjected to violence at the hands of extremists. The edition of the paper he had taken from a Toronto-area shop featured articles critical of Sunni extremists and the ASWJ.
If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people — House