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terrorism
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RE: terrorism
(November 8, 2014 at 1:06 pm)xpastor Wrote: I figured you wouldn't get the point. There are in fact important similarities between the Nazis and ISIS. For one thing, they gained power by having organized groups of armed thugs intimidate the populace. Another is that the Germans had minorities in other countries which gave them a pretext for attacking those nations; there are now Muslim minorities throughout most of the western world. They both share the delusion that destiny or Allah will grant them world domination, so they will go on expanding as long as we go on backing down from their threats. An important difference: Germany was a technologically advanced nation, so most of their armaments were produced either in Germany or in conquered territories, ISIS relies on buying its weaponry from external sources, which would require a different approach to choking off their ability to fight.

You'll find more analogues between governments and terror cells than you'd like... if you look for them. The things you bring up, however? Pointless. Terrorism is in approach; all persons and all nations are capable of it.

Psychological warfare... panic... these things are not foremost upon nazi goals: domination is. Should there be terrorism in Nazism, it is only as a means to their end, and their means differ nein from 'Ally' participation in the war.

ISIS can expand however it will... but fearing it is the first and most critical mistake. They want you to fear their god. They *NEED* you to fear their god. Terror is their recruitment. Terror is their weapon. Terror is their endgame. War is but a facet of their terrifying visage... and war they shall, as it is war you give them.

But... they are not unrighteous in their retaliation. We have brought them to fear us... and they now repay the favor. They'll need to pay back an awful lot more to balance out the wrongs of the West.

Quote:The crack about America coming late to the war was just a throwaway line directed at the obnoxious Hollywood presentation which makes it seem as if no one was doing anything until the Americans rushed in to save them from the Nazis. I have the utmost respect for the contribution that American forces made to the allied cause in both the European and Pacific theaters. However, it is true that the US government stayed neutral for over two years while 21 nations were overrun. During that time Britain, Canada and Australia were virtually the only nations opposing the Nazis.

Hollywood is american, and its primary demographic? American. It's rare to see a film from Hollywood that goes against it's primary demographic. False? Correct... but it is damn good presentation. Mind: terror is entirely about presentation. Media feeds the hungry fear culture; Hollywood feeds our fat ego.

Quote:So you mean you didn't give a shit about the 3000 people killed in 911??? These soldiers did not die on the battlefield. One was run down by a car in a parking lot in the town where his base was located. The other was shot in the back while he served as a ceremonial guard at the National War Memorial.

Correct, I do not care about the 3000 people killed in 9/11. Even if I am saddened by the attack: the number hardly registers. There are far more deadly things in america than terrorism... drunk driving, for instance. If I get sad about every person who dies, well... It'd be impossible to function for the depression I would be in. People live... people die. People will be murdered, people will starve to death, and people will wronged in as many ways as one can imagine.

The structural and infrastructure damage is unfortunate, as is the loss of 3000 people...

But more than 110,937 reported deaths from violence in Iraq by december 2012 (and at least 66,000 civilian deaths)... matters one hell of a lot more to me than fewer than a 30th of that number. We went to (two) war(s) over the former... by rights of this alone (and not counting the many many other wars we have inflicted upon them): we should expect them to repay us thirtyfold.

Quote:What fear??? My position is that we should kill the fuckers until there is an unconditional surrender. Same as we did with the Nazis and the Japanese.

Right. There are one and a half billion muslims... so, good luck. Start targeting muslims willy-nilly... and you'll have half of your world dead in a *very* righteous holy war. Minimum.

Raze the middle east... receive what comes to you when you inflict terrorism.

Quote:I suppose the following is another example of advocacy protected by free speech.

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Vandalism is not protected speech. Advocacy in absence of criminal activity is always protected by the freedom of speech, perhaps unless it is 'slander', but that's awful shaky.
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Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
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Messages In This Thread
terrorism - by xpastor - November 3, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: terrorism - by Faith No More - November 3, 2014 at 5:38 pm
RE: terrorism - by abaris - November 3, 2014 at 5:49 pm
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 3, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: terrorism - by Faith No More - November 3, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: terrorism - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2014 at 7:47 pm
RE: terrorism - by Chas - November 3, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: terrorism - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: terrorism - by Chas - November 3, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: terrorism - by Thumpalumpacus - November 3, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: terrorism - by Chas - November 3, 2014 at 10:33 pm
RE: terrorism - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2014 at 12:23 am
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 4, 2014 at 7:14 am
RE: terrorism - by Thumpalumpacus - November 4, 2014 at 9:03 am
RE: terrorism - by Dystopia - November 4, 2014 at 1:07 pm
RE: terrorism - by Faith No More - November 5, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 5, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: terrorism - by Faith No More - November 5, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: terrorism - by Minimalist - November 3, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: terrorism - by Minimalist - November 3, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 4, 2014 at 12:59 pm
RE: terrorism - by Violet - November 5, 2014 at 8:59 am
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 5, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: terrorism - by Violet - November 5, 2014 at 7:11 pm
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 8, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: terrorism - by Violet - November 9, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: terrorism - by Chas - November 9, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: terrorism - by Violet - November 9, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: terrorism - by Chas - November 9, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: terrorism - by Violet - November 9, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 10, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: terrorism - by abaris - November 5, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: terrorism - by Minimalist - November 5, 2014 at 5:52 pm
RE: terrorism - by xpastor - November 10, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: terrorism - by abaris - November 9, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: terrorism - by Violet - November 9, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: terrorism - by abaris - November 9, 2014 at 8:31 pm
RE: terrorism - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 8:32 pm
RE: terrorism - by Thumpalumpacus - November 9, 2014 at 10:05 pm
RE: terrorism - by Violet - December 3, 2014 at 10:49 pm
RE: terrorism - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 9:21 pm

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