(November 9, 2014 at 6:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Min, I have to say I find your narrative a good deal less credible than Ehrman's and in violation of Ockham's Razor. (Historical note: What we call Ockham's Razor was well-known to the scientists and philosophers of ancient times. Richard Carrier cites two places where the astronomer Ptolemy invoked it.)Quote:There may well have been a raving rabbi called Jesus walking the desert.
There "may" have been but what Ehrman...and Aslan, and lots of others forget is that there is only one story. That of the miracle-working godboy.
They are all trying to shrink it down to something they think is 'reasonable' but simply refuse to admit that in doing so they are writing a new story. In Ehrman's case it is particularly ironic since he has made a career out of blasting the shit out of xtians who take the 4 gospel stories that made the cut in the committee and trying to ram them together into what he derisively calls the gospel of markmatthewlukejohn.
That book does not exist. Neither does the one that Ehrman claims for his apocalyptic preacher.
If I understand your position (not just from the above post) you think that Christianity was "invented" in the 2nd century CE. I see some problems with that view.
- Why would these unknown conspirators set their mythical hero at least 150 years earlier and then put into his mouth prophecies of the end which obviously did not come true?
- Why would the forged pastoral epistles show a much more developed church government (bishops, presbyters, and deacons) than the wild and wooly situation depicted in Corinthians and other epistles thought to be genuine writings of Paul?
- Why would these people have written four wildly divergent accounts of the life of their central figure?
If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people — House