For Creationists.

[Esquilax]

This is amazing.
There are varieties of dogs. A dog is a kind of animal.

So when you made reference to being asked what KIND of dog you have in your last post, you were being misleading? See, it was you who said that there were different KINDS of dogs earlier, in your quest to provide the absolute vaguest definition possible; don't then get snippy when you're taken at your word.

Besides, even if all dogs are in a KIND together, they all still evolved from wolves, so they went from the wolf KIND to the dog KIND.

When you see a critter run over in the road, what kind of animal is it?
If it is a squirrel, it is that KIND of animal.

Are there any other animals in the squirrel KIND, or is it just squirrels? If it's the latter, what should we use to determine which KIND each animal fits into? If it's the latter, why is KIND a synonym for species where squirrels are concerned, but not where dogs are concerned?

Who is making these distinctions, and where can we find a comprehensive resource that shows what all the KINDS are and what fits into them, and why?

We can't help it if your mentors concocted lingo to create a new cult.

But you can help it that the word you're trying to replace the (exhaustive, detailed, unambiguous) scientific classification system with is an evasive, obfuscatory block designed to be whatever you need it at any given time to deny evolution, rather than an actual term of any use.

Oh, and by the way? The scientific classification system predates evolution by a long way, starting with the works of Aristotle. It wasn't "concocted" to advance evolutionary theory, it existed long before and was refined numerous times before Darwin ever even his the scene. At least try and get the facts straight before you launch into another conspiracy theory, yeah?

Ever hear the word Humankind?
That would be us and not anything else.

Why? Who made that distinction, and why should I care?

Esq, what I am saying is the chicken came first.
'Way before the religion of Evolution.

So what if it came first? If it came first and is irrelevant to what evolution describes, then it's still irrelevant. Your argument seriously is that evolution can't be true because only the thing that evolution describes actually happens, but this other thing that evolution doesn't describe has never happened. It's a total non-sequitur, and you seem utterly uninterested in doing more than demanding that we follow your strange, vague definitions because you want us to.

Believe whatever you want, I have tried to put these (apparently) complicated thoughts down in a way a child could understand, since they didn't take the first time.

You're being intentionally evasive because if you actually defined what a KIND is, and what goes into determining where an animal falls into them, the word would lose its power because we'd easily be able to find examples that confounds your definition. Because you haven't actually thought about what KIND means or does, have you? You don't actually know why the lines are drawn the way they are, because there aren't any lines at all, just whatever you need at the moment.

You try to insult us by saying you're explaining this so a child could understand, but what you don't seem to understand is that you're answering a completely different question in the hopes we'll just get off your back and leave you alone.

"Hey Prof, what's the definition of a KIND? How do you determine what's in one KIND and what's in another?"

"Dogs are a KIND."

"Yes, but... how is that determined? What's the definition of the term?"

"Why aren't you getting this? Squirrels are a KIND!"

"Okay, that's an example of a KIND. But what does the word actually mean, so that I can make those determinations myself as needs be?"

"What are you, children?! Humans are a KIND!"

Does that sound like a reasonable discussion to you? I didn't ask you for examples of KINDS. I asked you what the definition of the term is, and how it can be practically used. Presenting me with lists of different KINDS without any indication of what makes them that KIND and not another doesn't provide any information at all.

It's like if you asked me what soup is and I proceeded to list off a bunch of soup flavors at you. Would you know what soup is, if I just told you that mushroom soup and chicken soup exist?