RE: Can atheists convert theists?
July 11, 2010 at 12:29 pm
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2010 at 12:31 pm by Knight.)
(July 11, 2010 at 11:30 am)Scented Nectar Wrote: If a theist is willing to set aside 'trusting-others'-based and 'I-wanna-believe'-based beliefs, and look at only logic/evidence-based information, they will de-convert themselves. The unfounded beliefs will shed off like the fur of a hairy dog in the summer.
Hey Knight!!!
Hey Scented Nectar/Flowerpot!!! CVA is dead and I'm not sure what to post on the Sneer at the moment, so I'm just jumping right in again here. Your simile just reminded me of what the Defenders of the Catholic Faith told me soon after I left Christianity, "Lie down with dogs, rise up with fleas." I suppose that would make us all shedding dogs covered in fleas. That's a cheerful thought! I'd wag a tail if I had one.
Paul Wrote:A 'religion' doesn't always require belief in a deity, but belief in a deity is always 'religion'.
You are exactly right. The definition of "religion" is here:
Religion
Quote:Main Entry: re·li·gion
Pronunciation: \ri-ˈli-jən\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English religioun, from Anglo-French religiun, Latin religion-, religio supernatural constraint, sanction, religious practice, perhaps from religare to restrain, tie back — more at rely
Date: 13th century
1 a : the state of a religious <a nun in her 20th year of religion> b (1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural (2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : conscientiousness
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith
The second, third, and fourth definitions include belief systems that may or may not worship a God (or Gods, Goddesses, etc.).
(July 11, 2010 at 12:26 pm)Godhead Wrote: Paul -
I wasn't addressing your post, besides, I disagree with what you're saying about religion.
If you were not addressing his post, why did you explicitly say his name? Isn't it a bit rude to just ignore someone's posts and then continue to make points without addressing what has already been brought up?
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