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13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS
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RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS
(November 20, 2014 at 10:19 pm)Lao Shizi Wrote: I just picked one, number 7, to fact check, and, of course, it's wrong.
Quran 9.111:
Nitpicking. Yes, it's true there is no mention of 72 virgins, but the general idea (paradise for martyrs) is supported by the text.
Quote:http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/01/bloggi...ses-81-129

V. 111, with its guarantee of Paradise to those who “kill and are killed” for Allah, has become in the modern age the rationale for suicide bombing. Ibn Kathir explains: “Allah states that He has compensated His believing servants for their lives and wealth “” if they give them up in His cause “” with Paradise.” Ibn Juzayy adds, significantly: “It is said that it was sent down about the Homage of “˜Aqaba [an early pledge of Muslims" willingness to wage war for Islam], but its judgment is general to every believer doing jihad in the way of Allah until the Day of Rising.” So it has been understood. Abu Abdel Aziz, a modern-day jihadist who fought in Afghanistan and Bosnia, said in a 1994 interview: “I have found that the best sacrifice we can offer for the sake of Allah, is our souls, then our possession[s].” Then he quoted v. 111.

The Qur’an says that this promise of Paradise to those who kill and are killed for Allah is also in the Torah and Gospel, but it isn’t — which is in itself more evidence for pious Muslims that those documents have been tampered with.
So, what about the 72 virgins?
Quote:http://wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins#Authenticity

Whilst there are numerous sources, including the Qur'an, which tell us believing males will be rewarded with virgins, many who are concerned about the authenticity of the 72 virgins concept are under the misconception that there is only one weak (da`if) reference to the exact number of houri given to them. These narrations are in fact found in many hadith collections with varying levels of authenticity, ranging from hasan (good) to sahih (authentic).

For example, in the Sunan Ibn Majah, one of the six major Hadith collections,[31] it states in a hasan (good)[9] narration that every male admitted into Paradise will be given eternal erections and wed to 72 wives, all with libidinous sex organs.[10] Similarly in another hadith with multiple narrators that has been graded hasan (good), it states that the martyr (shahid) will be married to seventy-two of al-hoor al-‘iyn.[32][33]
No stuffed animal for you, sir. Would you like to try again?
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13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 20, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by DramaQueen - November 20, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 20, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by The Valkyrie - December 3, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Lao Shizi - November 20, 2014 at 10:19 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Thumpalumpacus - November 20, 2014 at 11:12 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by MysticKnight - November 27, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Hoopington - December 3, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Rev. Rye - November 28, 2014 at 12:40 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 28, 2014 at 1:33 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - December 3, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by MysticKnight - December 3, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Cato - December 3, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by MysticKnight - December 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 5, 2014 at 5:30 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by robvalue - December 5, 2014 at 5:47 am

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