RE: You know what really grinds my gears?: The moaning thread.
November 21, 2014 at 12:12 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2014 at 12:26 pm by pocaracas.)
(November 21, 2014 at 9:25 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:(November 21, 2014 at 4:45 am)pocaracas Wrote: If they do soooo much more, then why do they get paid the same?
Doesn't seem fair, does it?
That's because it isn't fair. I'm going to go ahead and guess that you haven't ever worked as a waiter have you?
Nor as a cashier...
(November 21, 2014 at 9:47 am)Tonus Wrote:(November 20, 2014 at 8:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: If people are willing to tip you for 10% of the bill, then why not... here's a crazy idea... increase the prices by 10%, and pay the waiters 10% more?Inertia. The restaurant that raises prices by 10% to pay better wages will go out of business unless its competitors follow its example (and they probably won't be inclined to follow its example). It's a cultural thing here, which is the same reason we are not expected to tip a cashier.
It's also unlikely to change because waiting tables isn't a career; for most people it's a way to make some money until something better comes along. I don't think there's a particularly strong lobby to push for changes because of that.
Inertia indeed.
As long as everyone (or most) do it, there's no pressure.
Cultural thing, I agree... like religion... not so easy to take it out of people's heads... tip these workers who can spit in your food... don't tip these who can pass expensive items through the scanner twice without you noticing it, or be way cool and pass a few around the scanner... Also, don't tip dentists, nor doctors... those get actual gifts!... and, sometimes, get brushed off as non-important, "praise-jeebus for curing me!"
The tipping system is stupid and its perpetuation depends on the society.
You guys are perpetuating it.
(November 21, 2014 at 11:02 am)Losty Wrote:(November 20, 2014 at 8:12 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Tipping is what keeps waiters earning minimum wages! Dumbasses!
If people are willing to tip you for 10% of the bill, then why not... here's a crazy idea... increase the prices by 10%, and pay the waiters 10% more?
If no one tips, wages go up, or waiters can't afford their bills and quit to find some job that pays better.
Anyway, that's why I never tip. I work to improve everyone, not just the one guy who happens to be serving me.
Sounds like a stupid excuse to be a cheap jerk to me. You're not working to improve anything at all. If you want servers to earn minimum wage, advocate for that. Write letters or start a petition. Refusing to tip servers who make $2-3 an hour just makes you rude. I love you anyways, but I hope you know if you're a repeat customer at any restaurants your servers are most likely spitting in your food if not worse.
So, I'm just wasting my time writing this here? huh?
If I can't get traction on a few educated people, how am I going to have the willpower to go to a broader audience with a letter or petition?
And I'm not in the habit of wasting money repeatedly on restaurants. Eating at home is one of the easiest ways to save and eat healthy.
Also, if they do spit in my meal, they deserve to not get anything extra... actually, they deserve being fired.
Oh yeah... the perpetuation of the tipping system grinds my gears... that's why I replied!
