Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?

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I wouldn't know how to wrap my head around how to percieve something like eing love without the ability to perceive.

...come again?

2-I hate reusing old analogies but, can't the creator of the cuckoo clock claim creation over his work?

I also hate analogies that borrow from the flawed Watchmaker Argument too, so let's not go down that road please.

God is omnipotent in relation to the confines of our universe, only in that he wouldn't willfully destroy wholly what he's created not that he is lacking in power.

So... God is not omnipotent then? Or do you regard the universe as infinite? Again I really hate pressing you for question after question all the time but your statements lately are lacking any explanatory power and are becoming increasingly vague.

3- I didn't know I was back peddaling to Annihilationism, I thought I as talking aboutit the whole time.

If you were arguing for Annihilationism this entire time then I apologise for not understanding your position earlier. Nevertheless I still find this omniscient god-concept's 'last resort' to be unacceptable; surely a being of greater intellectual capacity than ours can find a humane solution to his out-of-control-creation that doesn't involve destroying good-hearted people who simply could not believe in him?

Ultimately the wages of sin is death. Be it quick, painful, once or twice, oblivion I feel is an appropriate punishment.

So whatever god says goes basically. It's sad you're so hopelessly convinced that you can't admit you're way more moral than a Hebrew tribal deity who advocated slavery and the murdering of first-born infants, i.e. God.

And anyway as far as we can know anything within the context of practical meaningful knowledge, 'oblivion' is not an accurate statement by any stretch of the imagination, its safe to say after I'm long dead, the atoms that once made me up will still be around for a good few quadrillion years, assuming black holes don't break them into x-rays/gamma radiation before they too evaporate away.

I didn't say you were fuel for God's wrath as you have it. Firstly, I don't believe in eternal torment, but I do believe in hell as a place separate from God and built for the fallen. Secondly I think wrathfullnes isn't a trait I see in God so I don't attribute it as any more than man's personifications.

Hooray for contradictory positions, so you don't believe in eternal suffering only eternal consequences which is still immoral and unjust yet you also harbour a belief in Hell; literally a place or state where the damned are in eternal torment. Hell is separate from God, yet you simultaneously hold the belief God is Omnipresent, therefore by extension he is everywhere, including the Hell of his own making.

Even when I was young theist I found it strenuous to overlook the complete and utter destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the flooding of the world in Noah's time as anything but the acts of a wrathful, vengeful tyrant, primarily because the ends simply didn't justify the means. The cities and early peoples were of no threat to this creator or his dominion, yet he was so filled with hatred he utterly wiped them out, he didn't even try to rebuke them or correct their errors.

Lastly, To answer your question, if God were wrathful the object of his wrath would be the sin, not his creation.

Love the sinner yet hate the sin huh? What a load of bloody bullshit tack - that's certainly not what you've been arguing these past several posts. According to your doctrine, I fry, horribly, end of story, regardless of the punishment's duration.

4-I'm not saying what happens on the day of judgment isn't clear on what happens to the unrepennant. It is clear on that. I don't assume that once we die it's immediately to the judgement.

What difference does it make? The second death is still the only outcome for me according to your faith regardless of prior events and timescale. I see no reason to address this because that's not what you were arguing earlier.

ANswer to: Do you think that infinite punishment for finite crime is just? No, but the fire of hell consumes to oblivion, therefore not eternal. While the fire may be eternal the torment isn't, I don't think I've gotten that across to you clearly yet.

You don't appreciate that is eternal; since the consequences of simply disbelieving in God/Jesus in this single short lifespan (70-100 years at best) are everlasting. I'm saddened you could conceive of a standard that punishes me eternally for simply living my life as best as I can, yet others who could have been absolute dicks to their fellow man who believed in god wholeheartedly can stand to reap the rewards of eternal life in paradise. It's not just, regardless of whether I want to live on after death or not, besides my family would be heartbroken assuming they didn't share my doom; there are others no doubt who are terribly afraid of ceasing to exist that I also can't ignore.

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Sorry for the late response, it got lost in my drafts and I've been a little busy.

1- Correct God is not omnipotent if you define omnipotent as just all powerful, and no I don’t believe the universe is infinite. I apologize if my posts seemed vague, that wasn’t my intent.
2- You can have the best intentions (good heats) and still have them misplaced. I believe the scriptures are quite clear regarding the destruction of the soul and the day of reckoning. While it’s regrettable the imagery used was in a fiery torment, that’s what I have to go on. The question still remains, if you were given irrefutable evidence (by actually being in the presence) of God, would you have regrets for any of your incorrect life’s view (and the actions caused) from before?
3- Humanity advocated slavery and the murdering of first-born infants, and used God as an excuse. The Bible is clear on doing things for the gain of wealth in this world and unjust murder and simply declaring it God’s will, without the sacrament of confirmation, is not only flagrantly selfish and un Christian, but fanaticism at it’s worst.
4- As far as oblivion, they didn’t have the science to understand atoms and molecules. When it says you’re destroyed body and soul, it as simple as the atoms that compose your body will decompose and your soul will cease to be.
5- It’s not a contradictory position. I believe Hell is a place after the judgment where those who aren’t allowed in God’s presence to reside. You won’t be there, at least not for eternity. God as an entity would exists wherever he exists and then wherever he’s not in the nothingness is hell. Hell is a separation from God; sin is doing things that take you farther from God, thus closer to hell.
6- Love the sinner yet hate the sin is actually quite a common Christian sentiment. It prevents things like
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGkgmU9vG_o
and the problem of how God loves us yet hates or punishes sin (thought I’d interject a little atheist humor). Yes bottom line you’ll be accountable for your life and depending on your answer to my question in #2 you’ll get your result.
7- I don’t appreciate it’s eternal, because I don’t believe it is. Hell may exist for eternity but how can you be eternally punished and destroyed to the point of oblivion? Simple answer you can’t. I thought I was clear on this before but apparently not. You destroy both soul and body in hell, is pretty clear on its interpretation that hell is a place for your soul to be destroyed to oblivion.