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Obesity: five facts
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RE: Obesity: five facts
(November 21, 2014 at 8:07 pm)Drich Wrote: Why not just say obese is gross and gross will never be accepted? Stop pretending it is about anything other than that.
How about because it's not caused by individual choices and it's not their fault that they become obese.

You do know, don't you, that there has been a rise in the number obese six month olds - are you really telling me you think six-month old babies that become obese are "gross" or are in some way to blame for their obesity?

(November 21, 2014 at 8:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The most I can reasonably expect is to slow it's inexorable march to obesity. I've been informed that I'm already on the precipice by armchair experts with their generalized ideal weights and bmi calcs- gg body. Same people that would call an Auschwitz survivor "fit" imo. Dicks. I've mentioned that I wanted to lose weight to those close to me. Some of them say "well just do what you did in the service". No thanks, I'd rather be awake and not in pain at 210, or 220.....hell, even 245.
There are things you can do to decrease your weight overtime, but it takes a lot of effort, it's very slow, it isn't easy, and it's expensive. The number on thing - according to the science I've read - would be to reconfigure your diet to be based around veggies, meat, and nuts, and have two to three servings of fresh fruit per day (or just one if you're diabetic). Don't bother restricting Calories. Avoid grains - especially wheat and corn, rice may not be as bad for humans - it is believed that over-consumption of grains can lead to long-term weight gain. More importantly avoid all refined sugars - don't eat anything that has added sugar. If nothing else, those changes should - according to the science I've seen - stop a person from gaining more weight long-term.

The other thing you can do is stop eating before you're full. If you eat a bit less than you need and then wait 20 minutes, the leptin hormone will still be released as normal, and you should be able to go about the rest of your day without feeling too hungry.

Or, get bariatric surgery - unfortunately it is really the only medically recognised option that works and is safe and healthy. You can take up smoking or use cocaine and other drugs to suppress hunger, but that's far from being a healthy option! I believe in the future there will be an effective drug without the horrible side effects of class-a narcotics and nicotine, or that obesity will be treated with leptin injections like diabetes is treated with insulin injections. But at the moment there's no such option.

And if you improve your fitness your appetite might decrease as well. From what I've read I certainly can't promise it's true, but I believe it is and if nothing else fitness has other therapeutic benefits.
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Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 8:55 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by LostLocke - November 21, 2014 at 9:28 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by professor - November 21, 2014 at 9:51 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 10:45 am
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 11:21 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Manowar - November 21, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 6:13 pm
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Ryantology - November 22, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 22, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Drich - November 21, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by rexbeccarox - November 21, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Obesity: five facts - by Drich - November 21, 2014 at 8:07 pm
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 21, 2014 at 8:48 pm
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 23, 2014 at 1:07 am
RE: Obesity: five facts - by The Grand Nudger - November 23, 2014 at 1:51 am
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 24, 2014 at 2:51 am
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 25, 2014 at 1:54 am
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 1:21 am
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RE: Obesity: five facts - by Aractus - November 27, 2014 at 3:23 am
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