Evil things Christianity supports

[YouCanCallMeDave]

3.a. Yes, professed Atheists CAN be moral , but their moral relativism and self serving agenda that comes from jettisoning God works against that so they end up living as they like which is typically Amoral and without a right from wrong compass. Something that is desired by such People groups.

What power does Atheism have in making a Person better in your view ?

Atheism? Absolutely nothing. I was an atheist before I could even recognize myself in a mirror.

There are a myriad other factors that affect human beings regardless of their religious affiliation.

Loving upbringing, good rule of law, recognition of right and wrong (as normatively defined) etc etc.

Would appreciate if you stopped telling us what we believe though. It's not very conducive to a good conversation if you insist on telling people what they believe and they attacking them because of it.

Incidentally, have you ever visited northern or central Europe?

finally, contrary to popular belief, saying 'fuck' within your dialogue, be it online or in RL, doesn't automatically detract from the point (where relevant) being made. Though if you have a personal distaste for that particular word, you may need to grow a thicker skin.

1. You are correct that atheism cant offer anything substantial by way of power to live a better life , for, its too self serving and for real big inner change to occur in a Person it requires a power higher than oneself to make it a reality. You can only get so much from self help books and the like . For a murderer to be truly transformed inwardly, it requires a personal deep experience with the living Christ and weve seen this occur with the hardest of criminals. Now, that's real power to change a person.

2. You didn't start out 'an atheist'...rather, you started out being an inquisitive innocent quasi-THEIST . Heres how it most likely went down when you were very young :

If you were a real 'Atheist' you would have no reason to ask your Parents : how did all of this get here, or, why are we here ? You would automatically assume it was by accident for no reason...but...you didnt assume that. Your Parents response , based on thier philosophical bias, groomed you to believe they were telling you the truth. Then as you entered school, you got some reinforcing ideas that you were just a cosmic accident of unpurposed Pond Scum . As the years went by, and you started to adopt a self centered lifestyle based on maximum pleasure , you found atheism best suited your lifestyle choices with the added 'benefit' of no ultimate moral accountability to anyone higher than yourself. This continued into adulthood , where, the total freedom for pleasure seeking became a reality with being an adult. After many years of living in this addiction to SELF , you refuse anything which becomes a fly in the ointment to what youve chosen for yourself including : an unwillingness to look into evidence for Creation , not wanting a personal Creator to even exist , grasping at desperate philosophies and theories that many others embrace as a philosophical bias, and, a refusal to become LESS consumed with self gratification because it is 'your freedom and right' . In short, you have become a slave to Humanism which on the surface looks so appetizing to follow. Such is the deceptive lure of this faith based religion.

3. Its only the atheistic tenet of moral relativism that makes permissible the use of the F word as common verbage .. but im afraid that objectively and according to Gods standards, it is a sign of a low life person who suppresses his moral conscience in order to get what he wants or to talk as he wishes. Since Atheism is utterly fallacious and a disorder congruent with human depravity (a man made philosophy born out of pride, willful rebellion, and desired arrogance) so man can live as he likes.....usage of despicable terms only serve to help justify the suppression of his moral conscience because hes made himself his own little 'god' our of convenience. I once bought into the defeatist attitudes and language of God haters ; what God has done for me , he can do for you to if you want to overcome your Will to be a God rejector.