(November 20, 2014 at 12:35 pm)Heywood Wrote: Tonight Obama, presumably, will side step congress and enact his own immigration reform. Does this make him a president or a king?
Now I don't normally like to use material from Fox News because many of you are simply unwilling to hear an opposing view point when it comes from Fox News(which is silly) but I think Napolintano does a good job of framing what we should be looking when Obama presents his solution to the immigration problem.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/11/2...onal-fire/
If anyone wants to post opposing views of what we should be looking for....please do it now before Obama makes his play.
After it is all said and done, let this be the thread in which we discuss Obama's go it alone....immigration reform.
GOP sheep claim to be experts on the Constitution when the reality is that they merely get lead by their politicians with coded Orwellian crap.
Every president for the past 50 years has signed congressional legislation or used executive order to deal with immigration.
The GOP has not been prevented from legally making the attempt to counter Obama's executive order. Now here is a civics lesson for you, which has been in place that BOTH parties use.
Separation of powers.
That means no one part of government can create and hold absolute power. If one part of the government does something, the other two always have options to challenge it or over time change, tweak and or reverse. EVEN the Supreme Court does not have absolute power. In the 200 plus years we have seen once held decisions by that court later be over turned by a new Supreme Court.
Obama is not the first to use executive order, and out of prior presidents he has used it the least. Now if the GOP does not like what he has done, they can pass legislation, and if Obama vetos it, and they pass it again, by law, the second go around he would be forced to sign it.
The GOP can also challenge the order in court. Now that does not mean they will win, it only means they can bring it to a court.
And win or lose Obama is not allowed to stay in office forever. He is forced by law to leave in 16. If the GOP wins they can have their president, tweak, change or remove that order.
No tyranny going on. The reason the GOP is pissed is that he made a chess move they cant counter without looking like dicks to Latino voters.
If they do pass legislation and he signs it, the GOP simply does not want him getting credit for it. If they challenge it in court, and the court sides with the GOP they look like dicks, even if they win. If they win the oval office in 16 and remove it, again, they look like dicks.
They simply got painted into a corner and politically schooled. But no laws were broken.
