(November 27, 2014 at 5:49 am)robvalue Wrote: 1) Something can't come from nothing. So anything that exists has always existed in some form. The universe exists, so must always have existed. Therefore God didn't create the universe.
Theist would resort to special pleading, uncaused cause blah blah etc
(November 27, 2014 at 5:49 am)robvalue Wrote: 2) The universe is everything that exists. God exists, so God is in the universe. If God created the universe, he created himself. So he didn't exist before he created himself. So he can't have created himself and doesn't exist.
Theist would say God is outside space and time, defining it into existence, just as you define it into non-existence.
(November 27, 2014 at 5:49 am)robvalue Wrote: 3) God has all the knowledge of the universe. Therefore, there is no knowledge left for me. But I have knowledge, so there can't be a god.
Err ... does knowledge work like that ? If I have knowledge about the capital city of France, doesn't mean that nobody else can have that knowledge ( it's Paris ).
(November 27, 2014 at 5:49 am)robvalue Wrote: 4) Theism means believing there is 1 or more gods. So there could be 1, 2, 3... And so on forever. The probability of there being just one then is one in infinity. Which is zero. So there is zero chance that there is only one God, so any monotheism is wrong.
I think this is being less than rigorous with the mathematics of probability. It's saying there are either no gods or multiple gods. The same goes for Santas' reindeer.
Regards
Grimesy
Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Edward Gibbon
