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Aquinas's Fifth Way
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RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way
(November 28, 2014 at 2:59 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(November 28, 2014 at 2:08 pm)Esquilax Wrote: There is no mechanism present for causes to produce inconsistent results, so there is no reason why a cause would produce a distinct, separate effect each time.
To extend this idea, there is not a mechanism for causes to produce any effects whatsoever.

The interplay between various physical phenomena is sufficient. X thing happens, which consequently effects Y by the simple fact that it did happen. We can observe and measure what happens for most physical phenomena with relative ease by now. We know why causes have effects. Your assertion is that there must be some extra thing that makes causes happen at all, and to keep effects both happening and consistent. Once again, you've failed to demonstrate this, opting to instead attack (what you consider to be) my position, as though if I'm wrong, you must be right by default. You're smart enough to know it doesn't work that way, so I can only see this as evasion now that you've been called on to demonstrate your assertions.

Quote: The physical universe is pixelated at the Planck scale. In your universe, nothing connects one moment to the next.

To start with, this is an argument from ignorance: if I don't have an answer to this, it doesn't mean you're suddenly right. Best start justifying those claims of yours.

Second of all, I don't live at the Planck scale. Time is merely perception, a length demarcated by the progression of events within it; what connects one moment to the next is that moment, and the next, and the progression of physical phenomena within that span of time. Sure, you can zoom in to such a resolution that individual events and objects become indistinct, but you can also create a color wheel of such detail that you cannot distinguish the point at which one color transitions into another. That doesn't mean that colors are inexplicable, or don't exist; the explanation we have for them is sufficient. It just means that there is a point at which the human mind can't parse distinctions. But a limitation of our ability to recognize things doesn't mean everything is magic.
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Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by abaris - November 26, 2014 at 6:10 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Ben Davis - November 26, 2014 at 6:13 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Jenny A - November 26, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Jenny A - November 26, 2014 at 6:42 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Esquilax - November 26, 2014 at 6:48 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Anomalocaris - November 26, 2014 at 6:58 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Angrboda - November 26, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 26, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Esquilax - November 26, 2014 at 9:55 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Mudhammam - November 27, 2014 at 1:04 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by abaris - November 26, 2014 at 6:18 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Jenny A - November 26, 2014 at 6:54 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by The Grand Nudger - November 26, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Minimalist - November 26, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Surgenator - November 26, 2014 at 11:05 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by JuliaL - November 26, 2014 at 11:25 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Minimalist - November 26, 2014 at 11:43 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Alex K - November 27, 2014 at 5:33 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Brian37 - November 27, 2014 at 6:56 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by FifthElement - November 28, 2014 at 11:29 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2014 at 11:42 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by FifthElement - November 29, 2014 at 1:17 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Esquilax - November 28, 2014 at 2:08 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Esquilax - November 28, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Mudhammam - November 29, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Neo-Scholastic - November 28, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Aquinas's Fifth Way - by Angrboda - November 28, 2014 at 5:29 pm

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