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Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?
RE: Evidence for God being "a superior being" ?
Sorry about the late response, hayfever is killing me.

(July 15, 2010 at 4:03 am)tackattack Wrote: 1- And the vernacular definition among Christians includes the assumption of "within the universe" I think i stated is well in the other thread.
STOP. Omnipotence already has an everyday working definition and you asserted in a contradictory statement that this all-powerful universe creating deity is not so all-powerful after all. I personally don't mind if you have a different concept of god from most Christians, that's your privilege anyway, but you're not entitled to change the meaning of the word "omnipotent" to help your argument sound more credible. Your current concept of God is either omnipotent or he is not.

tackattack Wrote:2- And in the later post I was simply trying to get you to answer a question, which you still haven't done.
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if you were given irrefutable evidence (by actually being in the presence) of God, would you have regrets for any of your incorrect life’s view (and the actions caused) from before?
Except I'm not the one making claims that a cosmos deity is going to burn me in Hell for an infinite/finite amount of time for simply not believing in it, asking me, an atheist, for an opinion on how I feel is senseless, how one feels has no bearing on reality and is irrelevant to our discussion, especially when I asked you first to demonstrate your earlier claim with god interacting with reality, yet supposedly subject to the laws of physics, thermodynamics he created. You're changing the subject and shifting the burden of proof here tack.

tackattack Wrote:3- While God speaking directly is the exception, not the rule, it would still have to be weighed against the consciousness and in agreeance within the Church. In few if any of the many references in the Bible is confirmation accomplished. It's far more likely that it happens less then even the Bible attributes it and is probably typically of a selfish or negative desire rather than truly God's will. It is up to the individual to confirm that it's God speaking and not the self, or Satan.
Screw the appeal to authority (church). Are you seriously arguing the supposedly transparently-clear Bible on "God's love" you've been building your case on isn't even an accurate representation of your God's character? Just because it depicts him whenever he's behaving both morally AND immorally? So when he's being a deplorable bastard it's not really him being a deplorable bastard, oh no, but actually man and/or Satan advocating said acts to god? If that's the case then your argument just went:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRw9328aVmE
…because if the Bible is this skewed, this inaccurate and unreliable then you've lost, you have no valid casual connection to attribute or associate ANY acts committed with this sky daddy in the first instance. Please tell me I simply misread you.

tackattack Wrote:4- No. The compound defined as your body would seperate and become just atoms. All compounds we currently define as bodies (thusly no longer being a body) will deconstruct themselves to atoms as part of the natural process.
That's oversimplifying it just a tad; my body is not literally a chemical compound (singular) it's made up of many compounds, biological structures and cellular components such as proteins, carbohydrates, lipids, nucleic acids and other biomolecules.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition...human_body

tackattack Wrote:5- How can you discombobulate my ideas that badly? Hell is just as eternal as heaven. If heaven is a state of becoming one with God (which I believe it is) then Hell would be the opposite a "state" of being separate from God. If space exists after the universe's end then it would be wherever God isn't residing.
First off, you are refuting the notion of god's omnipresence not me, so please define him in a clear positive ontology, or have a meaningful characterisation at least if it's not too much trouble. Second, I thought you monotheists assert that only god alone is eternal and there is no other like him? And don't you also believe, by corollary, that becoming one with god i.e. becoming god himself is as impossible as it is blasphemous?

tackattack Wrote:6- I also don't see why you can't contribute your lacking relationship with God to the "wrong doing" in your life.
What "wrong doing" is there in my life tack?

tackattack Wrote:If evil overcomes good then God's plan was flawed and he should be accountable, if good overcomes then God's plan was right.
Good and evil don't exist in reality objectively they are merely subjective labels used to describe people's actions or inactions. If god is intelligent then surely he likewise is capable of both?
Quote:Isaiah 45:7 'I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.'

tackattack Wrote:7- A soul is the hypothetical immaterial essence, animating principle, or actuating cause of an individual life. You either have a materialstic view or one that allows for the immaterial. I'll assume you're a materialist?
Depends on the subject matter; I suppose you could ordinarily call me a naturalist, but within philosophical debates I tend to use materialism and physicalism interchangeably. Back to the soul: can you demonstrate to me its existence? Can you falsify or refute it? Or is this all mental masturbation with metaphysics?
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RE: Evidence for God being "a superior being" ? - by Welsh cake - July 16, 2010 at 6:29 pm

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