RE: Why 'should' atheists be moral?
December 1, 2014 at 9:32 am
(This post was last modified: December 1, 2014 at 9:34 am by Mudhammam.)
(November 30, 2014 at 8:03 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I'm still not sure what you mean, but I'm going to say we have a sense that ultimate value exists without fully perceiving the full extent of that being as it is beyond us. The all-value is belief that all value has a basis in the divine. When we value something it's usually indirectly valuing life or a state of being, and this life and state of being has it's essence being passed on from the Divine.Interchange "divine" with "subject" or "ego" and I'm on board. But as it stands, in however you use word the divine, I don't quite grasp how value is to be derived... simply because it's valuable? Seems redundant.
Quote:The creator being thte source and basis to value can be see as one of the divine names or instance of the name of God. God is outward and the inward. The outward is descent of his essence to the world of creation and the inward is the origin and the manifested by the outward. He is inward in his outward and outward in his inward.No idea what to make of this without some working idea of what you mean by God. If you mean a celestial being that floats around and in all objects, I'm going to have to demand some evidence for that. But again, totally redundant with regards to the question of moral value.
We don't need to have a full comprehension of God to have some idea of God. God is unknown and unseen but at the same time is manifest and close.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza


