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Future of Christianity in US
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RE: Future of Christianity in US
(December 4, 2014 at 2:07 am)Jhayward Wrote: Equilax: Are you saying it isn't possible for a thoughtful and intelligent person to go through a process where he or she decides for him or herself that the bible is correct?

Of course that's possible. It happens all the time. But it's not what's happening here. "Scripture is our supreme and final authority in all matters it addresses." Not only should it not be- reality should be the final authority- but when you go into any given area with that outlook, then what you have is a presupposition that will lead you to discard all the things that don't match with scripture. Good science is not done that way. Honest rational discourse is not done that way.

You can't have a thoughtful and intelligent anything if you start with "what I already believe is necessarily perfectly right."

Quote: Sounds like you are taking issue with the way arguments should be be made, and it appears from the website that the way they're making an argument is flawed.... And yes if you find any evangelical group they will make this kind of statement about the Bible. This is a statement of beliefs.

That statement of beliefs practically disqualifies them from being good scientists, as you previously asserted. It's the only reason why I brought it up; "creation science" sources often do things like that (in fact, a few of them use word for word identical statements of faith, despite being unconnected entities) and a lot of the time the people who buy into that aren't aware of the dishonesty at the heart of the source. They just take the lip service that's being paid to science at face value, which is what frauds like those guys thrive on.
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