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13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS
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RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS
(December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Cato Wrote:
(December 4, 2014 at 1:16 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: They aren't given the same weight as the Qu'ran, and different Muslim sects accept or reject different ones. Qu'ranists throw them out entirely.

I'm not sure where to begin with this reply. Perhaps addressing Qu'ranists first is easiest.

Qu'ranists are such a small minority within the religion that I found their inclusion in your reply to be a bit bizarre.

Is my not leaving out minorities relevant to the conversation really so bizarre?

(December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Cato Wrote: To my knowledge, Qu'ranists have no significant influence when it comes to the current practice of Islam and how that might translate to effects on culture and Muslim state practices.

Qu'ranism has a profound influence on how Qu'ranists currently practice Islam. Oneness Pentecostals are a tiny percentage of Christianity, but if you said Christians believe in the trinity, I'd point them out.

(December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Cato Wrote: Personally, I would like to see Qu'ranists gain more influence as I think it would be a step in the right direction if the goal is a more liberal version of Islam.

I feel the same way. That's one reason I like to draw attention to them.

(December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Cato Wrote: Despite the primacy of the Qu'ran in the religion, Qu'ranists are severely outnumbered by Sunni, Shia, and Ibadi Muslims; all of which consider hadiths central to the practice of Islam despite the Qu'ran's primacy.

But only one of which maintain that Aisha was six years old when she married Mohammed, which was the topic at hand. The Ibadi reject a LOT of hadiths.

(December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Cato Wrote: The hadiths being weighted less than the Qu'ran is a trivial distinction as practiced by a vast majority of the world's Muslims. Your distinction on the matter is immaterial.

You rarely seem to consider distinctions immaterial when it comes to other matters. I get the impression that there's something about this particular topic that turns you from someone who gets the importance of making distinctions to someone who lumps different things together.

(December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Cato Wrote: Let's look at this from a practical standpoint and consider KSA's (Sunni) execution of women for sorcery and Iran's (Shia) execution of citizens for "sowing the corruption of earth" (insulting the prophet).

Are you abandoning the Aisha being six thing entirely for this new topic?

(December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm)Cato Wrote: Does the Qu'ran support this? If so, Islam is fucked up simply because of the Qu'ran. If these executions are not supported by the Qu'ran, then the differing hadiths are both fucked up and we can conclude that the primacy of the Qu'ran is meaningless in this regard.

And so we should consider these executions as a trait of Islam, rather than of KSA and Iran? I'm almost positive you're aware that there are still Christians executing witches.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 20, 2014 at 3:05 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by DramaQueen - November 20, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 20, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by The Valkyrie - December 3, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Lao Shizi - November 20, 2014 at 10:19 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Thumpalumpacus - November 20, 2014 at 11:12 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by MysticKnight - November 27, 2014 at 10:56 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Hoopington - December 3, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Rev. Rye - November 28, 2014 at 12:40 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - November 28, 2014 at 1:33 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by mralstoner - December 3, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by MysticKnight - December 3, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Cato - December 3, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Mister Agenda - December 4, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Cato - December 4, 2014 at 6:09 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 2:06 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Minimalist - December 3, 2014 at 9:58 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by MysticKnight - December 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by Wyrd of Gawd - December 5, 2014 at 5:30 am
RE: 13 doctrines of radical Islam and ISIS - by robvalue - December 5, 2014 at 5:47 am

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