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Critique Time!
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RE: Critique Time!
(December 5, 2014 at 10:06 am)Drich Wrote: All biblical Answers provide are direction for those who are looking to worship the God of the bible. This does not change anything with anyone else who is looking to worship their own version of God.

But, that poisons the well with assumptions. I have to assume there is a god that wants to be worshiped before I can get a right answer. I have to assume that the information in the Bible is reliable, and from where I stand, all I have are reasons to assume the opposite.

Quote:Well, again going to the greek and hebrew does give me a better understanding of the text. The bible was not orginally written in english. As such there are aspects lost in a literal translation, which is what most of you will read.

The nature of the book means that no language is going to make it significantly less vague and open to interpretation. You could give me the first sample of writing that eventually became the Bible, and that still wouldn't clear up the issue at all.

Quote:I look to scripture as the bible/Paul says to look to scripture. That it is God breathed and is good for establishing and maintain a working relationship with God.

According to how you interpret it, that's how you look at scripture. Poisoned with your own assumption that you're doing it the right way.

Quote:Again I accept the bible as everything I need to know about God in order to have a relationship with Him.

And, if your only intention is to have a relationship with some god, that's probably the way to go. If your intention is to get the unvarnished truth, that's precisely the wrong way to approach anything.

Quote:There is only one context in which the bible need be intrpreted.

Hear that? That's the sound of you closing every door but one to the truth because you decided, for yourself, and ahead of time, what you want to be true.

Quote: Is the bible accurate in what it says about establishing and maintaining a relationship with God?

As far as I can tell, it's not accurate in what it says about there being a god.

Quote:Can i confirm/witness such a relationship outside of the bible if I follow it's perscribed path?

If you can, we'd all love for you to do it.

Quote:If yes then it is as Paul said. The bible is complete. At which point one does not have to know whether or not there was an actual garden, an ark or understand the events plotted out in Revelation. We are only tasked to deal with what we have been given over to understand.

When you decide there's no more to learn, you've resigned yourself to ignorance, and the world moves on without you.

Quote:Perhaps, what has been deemed an 'intelectual blind spot' was so deemed because it is a requirement of God.

Of course "god" would require that. If you don't have that blind spot, you start to realize how many extreme, critical problems there are with the whole thing.

Quote:'To care for people' in this case Means to care for those who care enough to have a dialog. Most people don't. Especially in those regions.

From what I've seen here, Christian attempts at 'dialogue' have a strong tendency to confirm, for atheists, precisely why we want nothing to do with your religion.

Does God give out As for effort, or Fs for effectiveness, when you succeed more at driving people away than bringing them in?
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Critique Time! - by Drich - December 4, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Critique Time! - by Chad32 - December 4, 2014 at 1:58 pm
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