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Critique Time!
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RE: Critique Time!
(December 6, 2014 at 4:32 am)robvalue Wrote: I thought of a simple piece of advice for any religious person wanting to debate an atheist. At least, an atheist who is fairly committed rather than apathetic (which there's nothing wrong with).

Consider how strongly you know that your religion is true, your God is real, how it all just is right beyond any reasonable doubt. Now consider that the atheist feels just as strongly that your God, your book and so on are entirely unreliable and probably made up.

I do understand this and did before I came to this forum. My problem is atheist seem to refuse anything we state, no consideration of it's possible validity. To totally disregard the Bible just because one doesn't like what said in it IMO is being dishonest. Things Christians use from the Bible are tossed aside, atheist refuse for the most part to examine what we present, they pass it off as worthless. I've given valid explanations to Bible verses even using the history ie. life style of the day and yet the info is rejected without consideration I'm correct, no counter proof given to discount what I presented. Yet atheist believe we should accept everything they say about science and this is when they state things that are at best speculation, no solid proof to go with it, yet we're suppose to accept it without question.

Quote:So if you try to tell us that "the bible is true" for example, as an unsupported assertion, that means as little to us as if we said to you "the bible is made up".

If you keep that firmly in mind, I think we could have more fruitful discussions. If you don't, I think you are utterly wasting the time of everyone involved.

Thanks for reading!

This has to work both ways or all we're going to get is things like Min's little snipes.

GC

(December 5, 2014 at 5:49 pm)robvalue Wrote: I would be very interested in how exactly God communicates with people.

I'll try to get to this later, if I forget remind me, do not have time at this moment, probably will be Monday.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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