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Theistic morality
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RE: Theistic morality
(July 19, 2010 at 1:30 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Just to move the conversation away from slavery for a second.

My take on theistic morality is that it is inevitably lesser than atheist morality.

When a theist does a good deed often it is to please, god or because they are afraid that 'god is watching' and will go to hell if they dont make up for some past misdemeaner.

This means that any "good" act they do is tainted with their desire to please or appease their god.

When an atheist does a good deed it is because they are acting in a moral way without the threatened stick of damnation and without the hope of pleaseing a god.

This makes the act more meaningful in my eyes.

Even within this view, though, would you agree that to realistically determine which acts are more "meaningful" one would need to know all the motivations for an action? In other words, a "good" act by an atheist might not be motivated by a desire to please God but it may very well be motivated by a desire to please someone else or to please oneself. In such a case, wouldn't that bring the meaningfulness of the act to the same level as a "good" act by a theist and render inaccurate your conclusion that theistic morality is "inevitably" lesser than atheist morality?
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Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 4, 2010 at 1:15 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by chasm - July 4, 2010 at 1:22 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 4, 2010 at 1:33 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by chasm - July 22, 2010 at 12:29 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 14, 2010 at 11:22 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 14, 2010 at 11:34 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 4, 2010 at 2:52 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 5, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 5, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 5, 2010 at 5:32 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 5, 2010 at 5:51 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 6, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 6, 2010 at 1:50 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 7, 2010 at 11:15 am
RE: Theistic morality - by padraic - July 5, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by padraic - July 9, 2010 at 12:07 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 10, 2010 at 6:36 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Paul the Human - July 14, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 14, 2010 at 1:46 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by downbeatplumb - July 14, 2010 at 4:49 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 15, 2010 at 9:43 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 15, 2010 at 11:32 am
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 15, 2010 at 11:58 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 15, 2010 at 12:06 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 15, 2010 at 12:11 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 15, 2010 at 12:34 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 15, 2010 at 3:04 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 16, 2010 at 8:58 am
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 16, 2010 at 10:38 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 16, 2010 at 1:09 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 11:18 am
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 16, 2010 at 11:59 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Eilonnwy - July 16, 2010 at 1:11 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 16, 2010 at 1:15 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2010 at 1:37 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 18, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 18, 2010 at 5:45 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 19, 2010 at 5:47 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Paul the Human - July 14, 2010 at 5:07 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Godhead - July 14, 2010 at 7:09 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by DeistPaladin - July 15, 2010 at 11:21 am
RE: Theistic morality - by tackattack - July 16, 2010 at 12:55 am
RE: Theistic morality - by padraic - July 16, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 19, 2010 at 12:58 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by tackattack - July 16, 2010 at 9:08 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 17, 2010 at 9:46 am
RE: Theistic morality - by tackattack - July 20, 2010 at 3:55 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 18, 2010 at 4:47 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 19, 2010 at 12:34 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 19, 2010 at 4:11 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 20, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 20, 2010 at 4:46 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 20, 2010 at 6:16 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 21, 2010 at 4:21 am
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 21, 2010 at 2:22 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 21, 2010 at 3:00 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 22, 2010 at 12:16 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 22, 2010 at 5:32 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by chasm - July 23, 2010 at 6:27 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 21, 2010 at 3:20 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 20, 2010 at 3:37 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by downbeatplumb - July 19, 2010 at 1:30 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 19, 2010 at 3:03 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 20, 2010 at 6:57 am
RE: Theistic morality - by CoolBoy - July 20, 2010 at 9:42 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 21, 2010 at 3:00 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 21, 2010 at 3:27 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 21, 2010 at 4:47 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 22, 2010 at 4:41 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 22, 2010 at 5:57 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 22, 2010 at 6:48 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 22, 2010 at 5:22 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 22, 2010 at 5:30 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 22, 2010 at 6:22 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 23, 2010 at 5:46 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 22, 2010 at 6:32 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Purple Rabbit - July 22, 2010 at 6:57 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 22, 2010 at 7:08 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2010 at 5:53 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2010 at 6:47 am
RE: Theistic morality - by chasm - July 23, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 23, 2010 at 9:33 am
RE: Theistic morality - by chasm - July 23, 2010 at 9:34 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 23, 2010 at 9:51 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2010 at 1:18 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Scented Nectar - July 23, 2010 at 9:47 am
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 23, 2010 at 10:53 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 23, 2010 at 6:05 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 24, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 24, 2010 at 5:36 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 26, 2010 at 9:15 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 25, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 25, 2010 at 1:44 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 25, 2010 at 3:57 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2010 at 9:16 am
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 26, 2010 at 11:53 am
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2010 at 12:54 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 26, 2010 at 1:14 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 26, 2010 at 2:15 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 26, 2010 at 3:08 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 26, 2010 at 6:04 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by rjh4 - July 26, 2010 at 2:00 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2010 at 2:32 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 26, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2010 at 5:58 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2010 at 6:07 pm
RE: Theistic morality - by The Omnissiunt One - July 27, 2010 at 11:30 am

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