Critique Time!

[Godscreated]

No, we don't accept what you say because it has no evidence for it whatsoever. Science on the other hand has so much evidence anyone would struggle to even read all of it. It's entirely, completely different.

Really, what about dark matter, can't be touched, be smelled, be seen. None of the physical attributes you demand of God, yet you accept it without question. I've heard the argument that we can observe the effects it has on other things, I've said the same about God, yet dark matter is all you accept. Until I can see it touch it and smell it I want believe it, that's close to what atheist say about God, right.

No, we won't accept stuff straight out of the bible as truth, because it's a story book with no other decent corroborating evidence. Especially for the supernatural claims, which are all but impossible to verify even if we had other sources.

Exactly why should you expect that the supernatural to be within your grasp without it directing you. There's a reason we call it supernatural.

Do you accept the kuran as truth? Believe every word of it? What about all the other holy books? Zeus? Thor? Flying Spaghetti Monster? Illusionary pink unicorn? Would you believe anything I said about them if I had nothng to back it up?

You can't have anything to back it up. God says He's the only real God and since I believe He's not a liar and I know He exists that eliminates anything you could hope for from all the pretend gods.

If you think science has nothing to back it up, all that means is you can't be bothered to research it, end of story. Science is only competing with religion in as much as science shows us all the glaring errors in a supposedly infallible book.

Science has no proof the Bible has errors in it. I never said science has nothing to back it up. There are many good sciences, I appreciate them, they've made life easier and many things understandable.

I could quiz you on the bible all day and show you how you don't follow it, but you'd just tap dance like every apologist and make excuses. If that's not the case, tell me whether slavery would be fine today or not. Or stoning someone to death for picking up sticks on a Sunday. Would you stone me to death for picking up sticks on a Sunday?

No you can't, well maybe in your own mind, but then we can't accept that, you lack the spiritual guidance of the Holy Spirit. Also by what you posted, that I put in bold, shows you're stuck in a past that was overcome by Christ.

What you need to try and get your head around is that the bible (which just happens to be the religion you were indoctrinated in, you'd be a Muslim if born somewhere else) is a book of claims.

There are Christians all over the Middle East, in China, Russia and many places in the world where Christianity is not the dominate religion.
Just what do you think the Bible claims?

Someone is saying stuff happened. That does not mean it happened. The book is not magic, it is just a book.

It is a study book of life, a life that can be in relationship with God. Doesn't mean it didn't happen either. It's not magic and I never claimed it was, actually atheist like to claim that one. It is however more than just a book, it can guide one to an everlasting peace.

Anyone can write anything down they like.

I see you've noticed that happens here to, shouldn't have been to hard for you though you do it all the time.

Why is the bible special, in that it is magically true? Because it's the word of God, so it's true so it's the bible so... Circular logic.

It's the word of God, that makes it the most special book. No it's not magical, however the miracle of salvation happens daily because of it. No one will ever stop that.

You cannot prove something is true by appealing to itself. If I say I do not lie, can that be taken as evidence that I do not lie? Because I said I do not lie? No.

I can point to a clam shell and prove it's a clam shell with no other evidence.

I could go on all day but... I know you'll never change your mind.

One would be crazy to give up what I know is the truth, I have no doubts, so why should I even consider giving up what I know.

Anyhow, thanks for chatting. I know you did read what I said and tried to take it to heart but I fear we will never be able to see eye to eye.

I do not see why we can't come to agreement on somethings, even God if you decide to give Him a chance.

So, thanks for making the effort to meet me half way. It's much more than most so.

I hope we can have more discussions in the future. Thanks for not using what I consider foul language in our chats.

GC